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id agree with mog its super nice to footlock on it really does do the job well but the glode runs smoother with ascenders i think but its so stupidly static i find my elbows hurt on it so i gone back to liros 10mm its a dream especially when it breaks down a bit.

ive not read the thread to well and im only assuming here but im guessing you are discussing a 3-1 from you anchor. on the becket of the pinto on the pulley saver you can place a small snap gate revolver and clip the tail through that you can use it to as low as you need in the tree rope length obviously being a factor then when your done you can pull the tail through leaving the pinto sat on the becket. as long as you have set the saver up well enough so its not cinched up tight to the stem when you retrieve as normal the revolver will come out with the pulley through the splice. i hope it helps

try a small snap revolver in the becket not sure if youve been over it but its a good option on the pulley saver the revolver will retrieve too so no need to go take it out

may be a bit early to tell but on the botom pic the climbing line looks squeezed by the legs, hows the rope after a battering on that or does it change when loaded with weight. like it thougha good idea.

same as james ive used a 8mm op on mine in a hitch climber set up used to use a vt but now a knut and love the knut more, i use a small anchor ring on the tail ends of my hitch to keep it all streamline it works a treat. with the rope i would say its a good idea to wash it abit i dont really wash any of my ropes but the poison ivy has a bit of a tendancy to gather dust and gunk and hold it but a good wash loosens it all up and makes it nice in the hand again.

hi, i have a few reccomendations ill try and post some photos tomorow at work for you if we do anything like it but i use the tail of my rope to lower me in kind of like a m rig but not as complicaed and all you need is the rope your on i have a 5m lanyard which i use single line alot which helps but its up to you. you have to be safe and happy we have a apprentice here and if there isnt so much to clear up and im climbing he gets in the tree and just climbs about and gets on the tips and then in then another it helps him alot and really worth doing. not sure about the employer situation if were in a hurry then we dont let the apprentice do it but where possible we do, it does take time to learn and try lots of things but some times the best way is a few hard climbs i remember as a trainee some horrible climbs i just diodnt want to do or be in but they all helped. ill try and get some photos up for you but i normally forget so dont hold your breath.

its a nice hitch a little bit of a fiddler climbed on it for a while cant remember why i didnt like it but there is a variation called die very happy and that one could be good with some tinkering.

from your croll use a triangle mailion with two express slings then two small biners on the end and attach to your lower side d's. then have some elastic from the top of your croll round your neck. some people use the elastic to the ascender for progress and some people use a single biner to the ring on the bridge to attach the croll. horses for courses and all that hope it helps.

when living in melbourne i got a red hook given to me and it is brilliant find a supplier over there and ask about it it is just a bent piece of metal that was invented by a local climbier and is a good bit of gear never failed and has no stupid clip. simples.

i was at treeworker the other day and nod has a load in ring him for details. Tree Climbing Equipment Online Shop - Treeworker.co.uk - Treeworker home what are you using it for.

i take it from the web site that there is going to be no access event and insted there will be a foot lock. dont know if anyone can help clear this up.

get a ring loop its what i use and is perfect. failing that get a prussic and put your own thimble in thats the best way.

hi scm i have one i keep in my kit bag and get to use it a fair bit. i got given it in aus and used it to do traversing there to save getting out the tree then again all last year it came out and made me much quicker then the other climbers in my crew. it is a worthwhile thing to have many views and all the usuall its not ce'd guff but it is a really good way to go im not sure of the material i think its alluminium with a rated alli biner welded on the bottom throw it over the branch you want to traverse on and use a long prussic or a ascender and tether to go up the end of your line. just be carefull of angles and it takes a while to learn to throw it. good luck with it though.

sorry just read this and seen the fella has been given heaps of help so no need for mine the other big thing is ive seen some stuff ce'd for utter gush i think ive seen cambium savers ce'd for mountain use and all sorts so a ce is sod all unless specific to what it is doing and if there isnt one and people want to bang on about it then write your own then preach all the good stuff yes and no on ce's but i dont know what the ce's mean they could be for door locks but as long as it is ce'd then its deamed fine its such a grey area. what you on about risking life, have the pioneers of climbing in all areas not made a risk do we not make calculated risk before climbing every day risk is part of it and managing it and working with it but to totally stamp out free thought in favour of produts that dont work for me will never happen if it aint on the market i make it myself untill someone will and they can do it better than me. no one in them factories climbs for living and they dont hang there life in it.

yes its fine as long as the splices are good and the thickness of the tenex you are using is above 11 i think it is i have one in my kit bag and use it heaps it is amazing for stuff like that. the treemagineers do a cambium saver that is designed for things like this it is their standard rope saver i think it is and you can add extra loops to run another saver so to speak it is a bit of setting up to length but will work well a actual cambium saver would just be a pain in the butt if you really want to just choke off a sling on the stems it ouldnt be too bad as long as the sling was the right length it would work. New Treemagineers Products - Treeworker.co.uk 4th one down will do and the aditional slings are below

hi frank. i use p/ivy myself and have a medium and short rope and use a hc set up too i use samson bailout i think it is 4 up 3 down or 3 up 3 down works great. i also use a small dmm ancor ring on the bottom legs of the hitch cord to stop the legs falling around keeps it all supersmooth. if your mad keen for a photo and i can be bothered ill get one up some time but its all pretty easy. for the bail out nod at treeworker has some in stock.

try some norrona trousers hard to get and a bit pricey but amazingly comfy and tough i wear mine all the time. flex 1 is the one to go for. good luck

a good point made by joe there and i would like to back it up. firstly it is nice to feel you have achieved something at a comp and have made use of your time and money but if medals and winning is your bag then good for you. it has always been a nice feeling to pick up medals and all that but for me the chance to meet and climb with excellent climbers and learn technique and get usefull tips is invaluable and is a real life arbtalk. i have no regrets about doing any competitions and they have also helped me find work and now enable me to work outside the uk. the second point was about the student idea i think it does make sense and allows them the chance to ask the more eletist climbers what they are doing and let them see the gear they use nd not only that they can meet people and ask them about their jobs and work and all that so it does have a really good addition for the students too. shame not more people have more to post, well done in the worlds jo.

i would like to make a point slightly derailing a bit but in the same vein. we are discussing wether the splices should be used with out a ce but i see this as a bit of a silly arguement when there are only two rated climbing systems i know off. one being the art systems lj/sj and the ce climb from treemagineers. the only one i would see as fully ce'd is the tm ce climb because it is all set up and ready to go so i personally see the whole arguement of splices invalid unless your rope splice system has all been tested as one and has a package ce. if you divert from these systems then you are mearly just adding a karabiner some hitch cord and a pulley and some other bits that are not rated for compatability so why does afag not state this. i dont think splices should just get the negative attention i think it should be the whole industry and if afag doesnt say this then i just dont pay attention to afag. i also remember it being a guide.

hi nick and pete. nice threat one worth reading for sure. i have always had my splices done by one of two people who i have full trust in and fully trust their ability to make me a splice i have however brought a rope from yale and removed the whipping due to it being a sloopy job i was not happy with and re doing it under the supervision of one of my mates. this seriously leaves a doubt in my mind to the ability of a machine to have the same care and attention made as a person. i personally see it as the same as a anything done by people it will always be of higher quality than that of a machine. i do however see the potential for human error and do agree that a certification could be a good way of judging a persons competance of splicing but who knows what happens when they splice one day and are not feeling to good or any irregularity could make this splice not as good as others so i think it would be only to say the person has shown they know a process and a method but not judge every splice. same as these cs units where people think i can now climb with a chainsaw well yer you can but you showed how to do some simple cuts not how to do it 30m up in the wind and the rain. this to me would be a different ball game. swings and round abouts definately

stu and pete, the comp i did in aus where i said about the three events we did this event had a total of 65 climbers and the whole thing footlock and masters for men and women (admittedly just one woman) was done all in one day. i still had enough time to hang about and chat to climbers and watch other events. i think the way they did it worked and made everyone really busy but i was amazed it was all done and tied up in one day. the kit check was held at a tree climbing shop the afternoon before and all kit sheets downloaded and filled in prior to turning up, saturday morning we met at the comp at 7 and by half 7 all had walked around our trees and had a demo on work climb. there was different trees for all grades so there was only 15climbers in the (advanced) category and they used a huge 7 minute fig which was a very good fast swinging tree and one for the public to enjoy. the reason the event worked well was because they used so many trees and there was no exceptions for people being late they didnt wait around or scratch bums with a coffee at 15 past 7 it was just done. also the use of the different trees was super good it meant there was never a que for a event. i quite liked looking at 1 or 2 people do the climb then just doing it myself. also a good point to note was a allowance was made for people from overseas in that they were allowed on site at 6.30 on sat morning for kit check which was nice for people who made the longer travel distance to be able to travel on the friday and not worry about the deadline of gear done by 6. hope some of this helps you. to be honest stu like i said the other day it doesnt matter your position in my eyes what matters is someone is doing something about it i agree this yr has been a poor show and it has been from my eyes unreal but i do think if you think you can make a difference or would like to then you will get the support you need from fellow climbers. good luck.

hi john, i fully agree and think it is a valid point but i also think that competition is very different from climbing at work and similar in others. for me thats the excitement. but i do agree stu some good info would be really good. i also think a date way in advance would be good i notice that european comps are good because the date is available well in advace and so is information. but for uk comps the date changes and it seems unreliable i understand there are reasons but when plans are made to travel that gets me abit. i think that would also help gain some european competitors if they could plan in advance.

hey stu, as promised i will dribble some **** for you. got a few points that i feel are good. the comps ive done abroad have been great and have hugely enjoyed them and had a great time and i will point out some reasons. in aus the had different different grades and allowed college goers and students the chance to do a rescue and a work climb, intermediates a 40ft footlock 1 throwline target and a rescue and a workclimb and the advanced a full comp. in another aus comp they had a mad man on a mic and he was great he commented on climbing safe practice and spoke to climbers. spain was well advertised and had a good crowd to see what we do and was a big promotion for good climbing and good work. other comps had awesome locations and great facilities and a good dinner in the evening. i also think around 100-120 is ok its about right for other comps ive done that are well set up and dont mind paying it. what i do mind is paying to fly to the uk and dates being changed and booking time off work and then having to go and book back in, every comp this yr ive done that and the european ones i can rely on to not change. i think they need to be more of a event than a qualifying formality. id also like to see stuff like srt encorporated into the rescue, there would never be a footlock rescue on our sites as we dont do it but comps seem to ignore the fact that people do just set srt lines in trees and not footlock and that annoys me. if you can turn it around id be happy to see it but im not going to do any more comps in the uk. the scottish was a nail in a coffin for me. good luck stu, i think its a good thing your doing and hope you can make it better for everyone

masters trees in both womans and mens was really good, there was a traverse between two trees to do and was a very good by all competitors and a worthy win for jon. high skill level was needed and a good weekend and comp in general.

nigel will the stein brand do things like camp and just copy other products and just come up with a ingenius way of selling it, i fail to see other than the price tag what this can do compared to a hc in or out of a rigging application. id be ineterested to see what this can do that proven equipment on the market can already do. other than flood it with second rate gear of course.