Daniël Bos

I've not heard or read that anywhere:confused1: I reckon your instructor might have got the wrong end of the stick? (though I've not a clue what stick..) It's galvanised steel, but not just two strong beams but a space-frame type affair, as it's on 14" wheels etc, there is quite some depth to the chassis.

The above trailer cost me.....not very much as my dad gave it to me. This was after I asked him to buy one for me like this one. (My family live in the Netherlands where these are a lot more common). He bought it for €1500 which by the time you add the ferry etc is £1500. 5m x 2.15 bed, ally sides, 3500kgs mam, 790kgs empty, 3x 1800kg axles. The loading is real easy: The strap attaches to the trailer on the side away from the log, goes over the trailer bed, under the log, over the top of the log and then back over the trailer to the tractor/Landy/winch/team of Oxen/slaves etc. It means that there is force on the trailer opposite to the force on the log which means the trailer will not move however big the log is you're pulling up against it. The pulling force required is much less than that required to lift the log but varies with the angle of ramps, diameter of the log (bigger is relatively easier) and height of the pulling attachment (higher is easier, up to the level of the trailer bed plus the dia of the log) Turntable trailers are perfectly legal. Bateson are talking "not that much sense"? In Germany, land of the Euro-conformists and rule-obeying orderlies they're for sale and popular, same in Belgium and the Netherlands. (not sure on other EU countries as I don't get out much.) You cannot currently build any trailer over 750kgs yourself without having it officially inspected or some such bull (since last year sometime) , and it will only pass if you use parts that have been specifically approved for a trailer exactly as you're building, down to lights, reflectors etc. Apparently "universal" trailer parts are a big no, whether they're rated adequately or not:confused1: I believe these rules apply for modifications as well, which means that putting different lights on a newly bought trailer for example is only allowed if they have been approved for use on that trailer... Maybe the UK market is too small due to an uninformed customer base? Just to be sure I made sure mine was built before all this came to play (think the first step into the abyss was 2008?)

Some more pics of big logs going on with no lifting gear.

The above trailer is 5m, and built with three 1800kg axles, so It's very hard to overload a single axle. Because the rear axles are so far back, I can safely load a beam of up to 9m as long as it's uniform in size. (5m trailer, 1-1.5m overhang at the front, 2-3m at the back gives a balanced load). If you'd put the above log on a "normal" 5m trailer it would lift the towing vehicle clean off the ground. Other advantages are: -No nose weight, which makes it much easier on the towing vehicle. -No transferring of trailer movement to the vehicle results in no bouncing rocking or snaking, again much, much easier on the vehicle and much safer to tow. -Much more comfortable to to because of the above -More manoeuvrable, yes it takes some practice but it can get to places you couldn't get a fixed trailer of the same dimensions. -It doesn't cut the corners as much, yet I can turn around in a much smaller space as the "dolly" bit will turn right back which means I can reverse with the trailer at a smaller than 90°. A fixed trailer wouldn't get near these angles before the drawbar touches the towing vehicle. -Really cool and fairly unique hence less knickable I hope... It's one of these things that unless you try one for a month or so, you'll never get just how much more useful it can be. A bit like the step from an ms250 to a 346xp, similar size on paper, big price hike but boy is it worth it! As far as winching goes: It's no good for lifting bags. For getting logs on a trailer however it's as good as a crane (not as quick but much stronger, I've lifted logs of well over legal weights onto that trailer with some fence posts and straps, logs that would be well out of reach of the lifting abilities of a small hiab). I don't see how it's messy? In the pic above the landy was just towing it on, not winching (it has no winch) this is why I suggested a petrol powered (chainsaw powered or similar) winch.

Why 4, I never use more than 3 unless milling very thin planks over 15ft long?

I still say turntable trailer. This was a 7m log, tad over 3ft at the base (I shifted it back a little before I strapped it on...). Loaded with just me and the landy. Why do you want the hiab? If it is for logs, a portable petrol winch and knowing how to parbuckle would serve you well.

Jones have some.

I did just that, bought the 880+47" duromatic and a 46"Sugi. The Stihl bar went straight onto eBay and sold quickly for a bit more than the Sugi bar cost.

Transparent resin. If you leave it open it'll fill with crap and go scummy, a nice clear resin will stay clear, clean and shiny. Best of both worlds.

Works for me, though the link title...?

As Germany is in the EU, you should not need to pay the vat if you are vat registered. The seller (if a company charging the German equivalent of vat) should send you an invoice, clearly stating the pre vat amount and on that same invoice include your name address and vat number. They then do not have to charge you the vat. This is an eu wide policy to make business easier as otherwise you'd have to try and claim the vat back of the German tax man... I buy and sell a bit of stuff between here and the Netherlands, where the same rules apply. p.s. if it's anywhere in the Northwest of Germany, let me know and I may be able to collect it for you.

All good suggestions, thanks. I've found one that seems to fit in my old sailing kit, but it has no markings at all for weight rating or such, it could be 140 years old though... I've found one in a surplus store that's specced to take a 25mm rope but its only rated to 2t? The 4x4 snatch blocks seem strong and cheap but I'd like to see how they'd do with the big rope as most seem to be made for wire rope of less than half the dia of my rope. A thinner rope may well be much easier and not as expensive as I thought. I do like to overspec things though, and my 25mm rope has a MBS of over 15ton where most thinner ropes (was like looking at 12/14mm) are up to 6t I think? So I'd prefer to use the big rope if I can.

Why? I've got a turntable trailer. It would be no different to tow if it ad half a ton of crane right in the front of the trailer. Still at least 4.5m of bed left after that, with the rear axles taking the weight of the load. No nose weight to worry about=much easier on the vehicle. I never snakes (though it might if I put loads of more than 8m length on) I find that with enough practise its easier to maneuver and I can get it in places that would be impossible with a fixed drawbar.

Turntable trailer, problem solved!

You'd end up with negative nose weight once you've got a log or two on board...

Good morning this morning:001_smile: I'm building a shed with some quite big bits of wood, too big to lift by hand with less than ten people... It's a circular building and I'll be placing a very sturdy telegraph pole in the centre for using as a rigging point, then using a tractor on the end of the rope I can hopefully do the lifting with a lot less people. I have a 50m 25mm rope that'll do just fine but not a pulley to match it. I've looked on every single page of the entire internet but even the big DMM blocks and the ISC big blocks and the like stop at 19/20mm... I don't need it to be as strong as the rope (safe weight of 15T I believe) as the biggest bits of wood will only be 400 to 500 kg, and there should be no impact loads... I'm on a budget so I'd be quite happy with an ebay "far east special brand" as the shear size of a 25mm block would surely mean a safe load of at least ten ton? But I cannot find not none of them nowhere? If needed I'd be happy to buy an expensive "proper one" to flog on again after the build is done. Any suggestions?

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Hello and welcome. The above statement would make those doors 5m tall...

I use a "fill partner" which screws straight onto the Aspen can, never leaks or spills and is easily the best made I've ever used (far better than Stihl husky or Oregon ). Means no decanting into combi can, so the cleanest fuel possible. About £15 so doesn't hurt too much.

The inventor is a member here. http:// http://arbtalk.co.uk/forum/firewood-forum/45502-new-axe-awesomeness-4.html#post704728

I think their online policy and it's new revision reeks peculiarly of Teutonic dictatorship... Further to that I despise attitudes like that of SdiS, dobbing people in to improve your report with the big giant head of Stihl, and by giving intentionally bad service you are surely hurting yourself as well as "the brand" and the customer? I walked in to a Stihl shop once when working far from home, got my saw fixed under warranty there and then (with well known interweb retailer sticker displayed prominently and proudly...) As a result of that service I've been there several times since for items I would have otherwise bought cheaper online. Having said that, I recently needed a new saw for big wood and milling and in my opinion there is only one choice. Unfortunately it's Stihl. My local Dealer was miles out on their best price (not to mention more than half an hour's drive away, ignorant staff and stock no spares for any saw) so I contacted A.N.Other dealer, many miles from me with whom I've dealt with on numerous occasion and without me asking they offered to send it out to my job-site free of charge. If it ever goes wrong, I will post it back to the retailer it came from in the knowledge it'll be back with me in 3-4 days after posting. If I'd take it to my local dealer I may never see it again for my will have grown old by the time they've figured out which way is up... If I'd take it to a dealer like SdiS, well let's say I'd make sure that no-one I knew would not get to hear about your "back of the bench" attitude!

Do you work for the stazi? "Possession of non company issued equipment", really? I suppose there is a lot more to this than the above two lines? (not accusing you of anything but every story has different sides) On first glance it does seem a bit harsh though. Was the deer being nursed by a class of teenage girls when you waded in and gutted it?

Does anyone else think "Stihl dealer in Scotland" is an agent planted by the "better together" campaign....?

I doubt it, look at his other posts:001_smile: I'd say perhaps Mr Brown just isn't so eloquent or otherwise less able to convey his thoughts to text? As to his actual meaning in the above post I too am somewhat baffled...

Your tires may be 20.5x8.0-10, your wheels are 4x100 Pcd... Anyway, it was just to add to the "closing of the stable door" volley of "would have been solutions" that offer you no help at all. They may offer some suggestions should anyone else find themselves in your situation though.