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one thing i would look at is second hand value in years to come ,from my own observations a stihl seems to be between £60&£100 more for a second hand machine as compared to the husky equivalant but husky is the more expensiver saw when new ?, and i find stihls are easier to work on

i know where you are coming from the youth of today are more interested in going home rather than getting the job done, and as for what they learn at collage? , well i cant answer that one but a lad i had for 2 days a week from myerscouh collage said to me that he had lernt more from me over 6 mths than he had at collage in 3 yrs, and the thing that got me was tree ID he new nothing at the start and told me that they had done a couple of hrs on tree ID at the beginning of course, so in a woodland and asked him to fell the lodgepole and birch , which are them , thats where i realised what the f==k do they teach them and who is teaching them,?????,

eh yeh,, for 35 years thanks,

when you was making money out of the firewood i was not making much out of the timber, but today same amount of work and believe it or not i am starting to see a more healthier reward from the timber side and yes the hauliers do do well out of it if they are buying the timber then selling on, i now sell direct to mills and get them to arrange haulage, and the firewood we now sell to private punters in small loads 2,3,4, tonne as nearlly every man and his dog who have a stove has now got a really powerfull chainsaw from either B&Q or Aldi etc and one of them clarke elec log splitters that make is a bit easier than a axe but not as fast as a axe.

j cut is bassically a step cut that looks like its gone sadly wrong but as slack say its for over guide bar stuff and if done correctly you shoud be able to see the j on the stump its a slow release cut and works well on big trees, the others are your normall step cut and a cut called a v cut again a slow release cut that works well on smaller trees, guide bar under tree cut up 20-30mm then guide bar up one side of tree on a 45 degree angle repeat this process on other side of tree then with guide bar level from the top alline 45 degree cuts and start cutting downwards keeping an eye on the cut for opening up when cut starts opening ease of on power and finish off gently and when this is done correct you will see a v on the end of both sections of timber, and as shillo says get ready to jump, a guy i know got popelled 38 mtrs through the air and how far he would of gone is anyones gusse but he was stopped by a tree and when he hit the tree his feet where 8ft from the ground, his injurys broken pelvis 2 broken thighs and from the tree that stopped him broken collar bone, arm and 5 broken ribbs in this back , so be carefull,

Sorry but i cant see why you think £70 a tonne is mental when you look at what work goes in to it , processor sized ash 4 trees per tonne fell, sned and cut in to 2.5 mtr lengths then stack, timber has been purchased standing say £20 per tonne cutter wants paying £20 per hour then £10 per tonne to get it to roadside dont leave much at £20 per tonne proffit , then compare the same said 4 trees in some ones back garden and they would be priced at what 6 7 8 £900 or may be more for dismantle and removal , about 4 months ago i was helping out a arb team for a few days when customer asked about the removal of a apple tree while they where there they quoted her £120 for what looked like about 10 mins work to me for 3 guys, so why not £70 per tonne ?,

Ok who has been spying on me ??????????????

Does,nt matter what saw it is as you can cut a fairly big tree down with a small saw if you know what you are doing, looking at the cut it aint a big issue is it ? gob cut a bit big and if back cut had been level from where he started it would of been ok, if no one was hurt its fine and if that would of been on a NPTC accessment it would of been talked about then candidate given another go to correct his faults, we cant get them all right, when i look at some i have done, some have been right dogs dinners and a 5 year old could of done better but if you are felling 40,50,60,70, trees a day i think 1 or 2 f,,k ups are acceptable, looking at the cut i would say 12" bar on saw so should not be a problem and why cant he log the stem up with a 12" bar ?,

i find it pretty amazing that a piston the size of a egg cup can go up & down so many times per minuet at such an amazing speed, 121,572,000 revolutions is quite eye opening really for such a small bit of kit, but after picking up another lads 241 the other day i did notice a difference in power between mine and his, his is about 12 months newer same bar & chain but pick up is quicker and had more power and sounded a lot crisper but saw will have not done any where near what mine has done. i had,nt noticed the drop in power untill the other day but i would,nt as it would be so gradual so time for a new one then ,

Hi all what is a lot of working hours for a fully working pro saw ? reason i am asking is that i have just had a stihl ms241 in at the dealers with a starting issue that i did not have time to sort out, how ever the issue was something i would of still been looking for as it was a fuel solinoid valve , when i went to collect the saw i was given a diagnostics report all printed out and on one page it said working hours 368.4 would you say this is a lot, average or low. the way i look at this is if it was a car sat on the motorway at 60mph for 368.4 hrs it would of covered 22,104 miles, now there is a massive difference between a 1ltr car and a 42cc chainsaw and when i looked at it this way i was fairly impressed that it was still running at all, it has been a good saw for me and had very little problems with it apart from a couple of plugs needle bearing change regular and a good clean on a regular basis and the air filter cleaned weekly, so made my decision it will have to be replaced as it wont last forever, 368.4 hrs i think is not a lot for a engine but a 42cc single cylinder engine revving its nuts out on a daily basis i suppose its a fairly large amount,

Don't know what it weighed but don't reckon it was anywhere near 2 ton! 26'' x 8' 6'' larch felled 3 years ago, anyone care to guess? fresh felled would be in the region of 1030kgs and if its been down 3 years and its lost 20% moisture it would weigh approx 824kgs,

stuart best place for pumps pipe fittings etc is whitehouse products at port glasgow on the clyde so not that far for you, they will send you a catalouge thats like a phone book with pictures of components (in colour) and they offer a fantastic delivery service order before 3pm here for 9am next day hope this helps,

decent hardwood arb waste whats decent and whats not ? will pay dependant on quality and what would you pay.?, as got some ash beech and alder on a job your way in about 10 days or so.

came back other day from chatburn but went west bradford waddington bashall eaves slightly over loaded so stuck to back roads,

its not close enough to where they where tapping in to the mains water, sewer and elec on chatburn road outside old hospital about 3-4 weeks ago, just that they had a lot of problems with water main,

some beech ash and oak mixed and its some big (600-900mm) rough stuff just got sold near us at £60 tonne road side,

Hi was this today ? and where abouts in the town was it ? just that my sisters fella has just finished services and ground works on the old hospital site,, if its round there its just some thing i can take the piss out of him with,

sorry should of been on end of last post i think your bed mounted branch logger is a far better idea with bagging system on it and may be a second trailer behind forwarder for bags ?.

J, brainstorming its no good, it just ties you up in knots, if your planing on selling the chip on as payment forget it as its a lot of work for very little return, we tried this earlier on this year as a trial same thought as you bed mounted chipper and crane feed it borrowed the chipper that i was going to mount on forwarder a kwickchip 8" and it was a night mare feeding it with crane and it was much faster with 2 of us feeding chipper by hand and to do it with a profit at the end if any is just not worth it ,was chipping in the wood into ifor 10x5.6 tipping trailer with 10x5 ply sides and nissan cabstar pick up again with ply sides in the so getting about 12 cube of chip on @ approx 3 cube per tonne = approx 4 tonne at £52 a tonne, i think weigh bridge ticket was 3960 kgs then i had to deliver it 12 mile it just about paid wages, one pick up and trailer and a pick up load in a 8 hr day, the high lift grain trailer wont lift high enough to tip in to a wagon looked at that and now the weather is on the turn it just makes it harder and forwarding brash out with our size of machines is not a viable venture either ,large forwarder clearing brash off a eurotrash site earlier this year £6 a tonne for brash to road side then chipper chipping in to walking floor arctics 30 mins a load,so for me its back to that good old fashioned way of burning the brash much eaiser and quicker, drawings for bed mounted chipper are here some where,

Hi been watching this with great interest, J are you planing on selling the chip on ? or just chipping to waste on this issue, as some good points bring made here but i cant see any thing about what your doing with the chip,

i agree with J on this all cutters are different, different speeds different technquies make for different out putts a good cutter on say 350 DBH spruce 15+ tonne per day and some one new to the job less than 10 tonne a day, the job i am doing at present is a old windblown spruce site and i am only getting about 20 trees a day out but dead dry stuff so only about 6-8 tonne a day, but bear in mind trees are blown in every direction there is, so its like a massive game of pick up sticks, if trees where all standing it would be a different ball game and i would of been done long ago, next job some 600-850 DBH straight tall beech trees and i will put in the riegon of 18-20 tonne a day on the deck.

3.7m =3.7 meter product lengh, 18cm TDUB = top diameter of sawlog under bark

Hi how big area are you talking about ? the blue book is your bibble when it comes to forestry work, what you cutting ? whats the ground like ? is access good or poor ? it all plays a part in the pricing of jobs,

just get a proper one dont bother with the chinese stuff kubota first choice yanmar second this works 8-12 hr days 4 or 5 days a week been stood out in woodlands for last 6 years and never ailes any thing only from abuse ,

hi i was working in the north of the lake district recently and while driving on A66 from penrith to keswick there is a big section of willow planted along there and there is a large section of willow just north of penrith J40 on M6 dont know if its a viable venture but somthing has to change as we wont have any timber left if things keep going the way they are.