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  1. There is no formal qualifications required to set up as a sweep, my terrier could do it. Most installers have seen pretty poor jobs sweeping wise. Jetmasters can be a nightmare, pretty inefficient compared to a stove as well. Had a look at the video, looks a decent stove, but no better than the Axminster made Arada I400 cassette stove or the Danish Morso S81. Dont know how it stacks up against those price wise. At least with Arada ( and in normal times Morso) you have an assured parts back up. A
  2. We always use stainless, sometimes loose jobs because we are more costly but quality costs money, A
  3. Should be able to fit a clay liner adaptor to that, as long as there is enough height above the stove, looks like it will need a couple of elbows as well. Maybe rear flue the stove straight into the CLA, A
  4. You were lucky that there were no snots of mortar on the inside of the liner, we wont even attempt to put a 150mm liner down a 175mm clay lined these days as it always ends in tears. A
  5. I assume you have a 7"clay lined flue, that being the case no way will a 6" flex liner go down it, gobs of mortar between the sections will stop it. A 5 inch liner should be fine. Legally you dont need to fit a liner but if you use a clay liner adaptor instead it needs to be able to be sealed airtight to the base of your chimney. That needs a flat concrete slab and you need the height above the stove to get the adaptor in. The installations needs to comply with the building regs and needs to be signed off post install as being safe to use, a copy of that sign off is lodged with your local building control office. No sign off and your insurance company will pull their cover in the event of a fire or other claim. While you can do the installatio yourself you will then need to bring in a building inspector to check and certify the work, a registered installer will not sign off work of others especially untrained others. My advice is to measure that chimney ID accurately, then get a qualified installer involved. Stoves fitted with a flue liner work better than if not so fitted, they pull harder. A
  6. The Franco Belge is a good stove with most parts available. It should sell easily enough in Sept on ebay or similar. A
  7. I have heard of the brand yes but not any first hand experience. The Uk importer is here: BARBAS BELLFIRES UK LIMITED. Free company accounts direct from Companies House. Download Accounts FREE COMPANYCHECK.CO.UK BARBAS BELLFIRES UK LIMITED. Free company accounts direct from Companies House. Download Accounts FREE In business 28 years but only work 75k ish, sounds like a pretty small set up. The issue is that sooner or later spare parts will be needed, while they have a good network in their country of origin and seem to have some UK dealers but I would be worried about parts back up unless the Uk importer is doing the stocking. Which looking at the financial figures I doubt. As an aside I can only see an 11kw version, for an inset stove thats a huge output and will heat a room with a volume of 150cu m given average insulation levels or 170 cu m for good insulation. Is this an inset stove, dont recall FB doing an inset and I used to be a dealer before they went under. Get a second opinion from your local stove retailer. A
  8. They do work but someone needs get up there to sweep the horizontal pipe every year, I know because I have one above a pellet boiler. External air kit will improve the pull, but the cause of the downdrafts which I suspect is a higher building or trees within 80 yards or its on the side of or at the bottom of a steep hill needs identifying. We usually use Brewer anti down draft cowls. Eurocowl ones are just as effective. A
  9. If you can find a bank or post office near you these days. Electronic payment is so much easier. A
  10. The look varies somewhat between manufacturers. I think you will have to take your installers word for whats been installed, if he has supplied it then he is liable for the warranty aspects. If you have the packaging the liner was supplied in that may tell you. 904/904 is made up of two layers of stainless 904 grade material, 316/904 has an inner of 904 and the outer is 316. 316 is a lower grade of stainless steel but almost impossible to tell apart. If you are burning solid fuel most of which will be illegal to sell from Jan 22 then the fumes are highly corrosive, thats why you want 904 on the inside. Its not really that important what the outer layer is as its not likely to be in contact with the fumes. If you are burning wood then 316 on the inside would have been perfectly fine unless attempting to slumber the stove which with a 2022 compliant stove is difficult unless you put wet wood into it. A
  11. This is also dangerous, pipe where is fits into the flue flange on the stove should also be secured with 3 x stainless pop rivets or self tappers to stop an enthusiastic sweep parting the pipes.. The joint above is not all the way home, probably because someone cut the flue liner to short. A
  12. The stove is a Morso 3116 Badger, as a Morso UK dealer I can tell you its one of the best stoves in the world, the colour which is a dedicated Morso colour looks original so that suggests to me that the stove has not been repainted. It also suggests that the stove has done very little work unless it has been repainted. Morso sell paint in pots for brush application or aerosols, these take3 or 4 very thin coats only to cover, If its been hand painted that will tend to show brush marks, that being the case the paint could be the issue as it will have been applied to thickly. Usually 4 or 5 fires of increasing temperatures will cure the paint on the stove ex works or an aerosol respray and any smells will disappear. However the quality of the installation work is poor, the gap at the sides of the stove while legal are insufficient to allow a good air flow around the stove to get the heat coming out in the room. You need at least 100mm each side, I would be surprised if you have that. The hearth looks fine, but wall paper right up to the edge of the opening is a bit risky, stoves get hot, wall paper is combustible. Morso recommend at least 800mm of clearance from the front to combustibles and soft furnishings. There is also an issue with the beam above the opening if its wood, minimum combustible clearance from any part of the flue pipe in a straight line to the beam is x3 the flue pipe diameter, so 375mm. If the beam is cast ( thus non combustible as its made from a type of plaster) then there should be no problem with it. It is wood then there may well be, The minimum combustible clearance above the top of the stove is 500mm, looks like you have that OK. I would like to see some pictures of exactly whats been done in the loft area if its not been flued into a brick chimney, that being the case also some external pics of the flue pipe and the roof . The advice above re a camera inspection carried out by a registered sweep is very sound, there will be nothing wrong with the stove believe me, I have sold them for 12 years without a single issue. My money is on a tar build up caused by slumbering an older stove, ( new stoves are set up in such a way that you cant shut them all the way down), they can still produce tar though if wet wood is put into them, One issue I have come across in the past is a new flue liner put into a tar lined brick chimney, the tar must be removed before a new liner is installed, otherwise the hot flue liner will melt/set fire to it. That will continue to emit smells for ever and be dangerous to boot. Do you have a Hetas (or similar) sign off certificate for the install, this will identify the installer. If there is a stainless steel flue liner within a brick or masonry chimney then you should have a metal plate usually kept near the electrical fuse box, this will identify the make and diameter of the flue liner, who installed it and when. If you have nothing check with your local building control office if they have a record of the installation, the installation of a stove is a notifiable requirement under the building regulations. If they do then that will give you installer details or you can check with Hetas to see if they have a record based on your address, Hetas will charge you £25 for a new certificate. But there are now other approved bodies apart from Hetas so building control would be my first stop. If building control have no record you need to speak to me or other trade professional as to how to proceed. A chimney fire over a stove non certified as safe to use will almost certainly result in any insurance claim being refused. Dont get here that often , to busy, so apologies for the late reply. A
  13. If its a boiler stove, so one or two water pipes in and the same out do not run it without water in the pipes/stove. If you do the water acts as a barrier for the excess heat, no barrier and the outer casing may fail. A
  14. It's either a Villager or a pre bankruptcy yeoman, I think the latter. Send your pics to Mike at Arada, they are the villager parent company. They do have a direct sales facility for spares but you will get hit with carriage. Doing it though your local Arada dealer then providing they buy a fair wedge of stoves then there would be no carriage. I cover Northants, Bucks and parts of Leics, Beds, Oxon, and Warwickshire. The hinges look like Yeoman, think they protrude to far for Villager. That being the case the name was bought by Stovax but parts for pre bankruptcy models are now non existent, but if they can identify it you should be able to get bricks from specialist brick suppliers . Given sizes or templates then I could organise if needed. The bricks are vermiculite usually and 20 or 25mm thick, they can be cut with a decent wood saw so previous advice about getting a sheet of vermiculite and cutting your own is sound. On the install side the minimum distance to combustibles from a single skin pipe is x3 its diameter, so 450mm if it's a 150mm pipe. MCC on twin walls depends on the quality, the best Poujoulst TI are 50mm, the worst at least twice that. A
  15. Fuelwood do a minimum weeks hire of a kindling machine at about 450 + VAT from memory. In a week you could convert many years of kindling I would think. A


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