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How right you are in what you say in you're last sentence.👍

Many thanks for all your replies , I only asked as a general question. Come what may , I am sure that most Ash firewood / logs are now going to be from Ash suffering from ADB , so how ever it burns that's what customers are going to be receiving / burning .

Please can someone direct me to threads that have discussed the effects of "Ash Die Back" on burning quality of "Ash Die Back" effect wood if any ? Many Thanks

Info attached which I had back from Valiant.

Many thanks for all your recent replies as they are all useful information as to how much wood is costing at roadside.

I suggest you contact Bob Sizeland of Valiant for a definitive answer , his Email address is "[email protected], as I did . Cheers

Any updates on the above thread as regards prices ?

As above . I ask as I need to get some cordwood in for splitting , to dry out (to 20% !!!!!!!) by next October , I will dream on !!!!!!

I have just phoned Valiant ( 6/5/21. 8.50am) ,and the customer services lady told me the Valiant FIR421 Colour Change Moisture meter, definitely measures moisture using the "WET BASIS". I hope that helps and if you wish to phone them to confirm what I have said Valiants Phone Number is:- 01763 284184.

I will phone Valiant tomorrow to get a definitive answer as to whether it measures moisture using Dry or Wet basis. All I want is moisture meter that measures moisture content to Woodsure standards at the press of a button. All the articles Arbtalk members about moisture content are interesting but all I want is a moisture meter that I can carry in my truck and say to a customer ,when I measure a log in front of them ,that the moisture content is "x" etc and this moisture meter is approved by Hetas/Woodsure , irrespective of what the customers moisture meter may say , whether that be higher or lower than mine.

I purchased a Valiant moisture meter from HETAS . I certainly hope that when it says 20% ,it is what HETAS would would except as 20% !!!!

I strongly recommend downloading the above from the internet, and read slowly through it . After reading it ,it has put my mind at rest over a few things at least till May 2022. I might then be forced to call it a day if I haven't, mastered a technique of getting logs down to 20% just by air seasoning!!!!!! Of course , if I have misinterpreted what I read I may be in for a fine😒 I will keep a copy of the regulations with me in my truck,to explain to customers and show to a "little HITLER/ESS local authority officer " who will be on an ego trip to exercise their Authority .

I have some old age pensioner customers who only have enough storage for .8 cu mtr of logs,which is half of my usual 1.6 cu mtr full. At the moment I cant meet the new regulations criteria which says a load of 1.6cu mtr or less has to be under 20% mc. Seems ridiculous that small loads cant be over 20% as long as one gives the customer a note ,the same as one has to do with a load of 2cu mtr. OK I know what I am saying defeats the theoretical idea of the new regulations,but it doesnt seem very fair for old age pensioners who trust someone they have been dealing with for 10yrs or so.!!!!!

youtube.com/watch?v=zFllcvlV24c Be warned its in German and a bit long winded 😉!!!!!!

I downloaded the "Firewood Production Manual" (published 2008) a time ago , off the internet . Some interesting graphs in their about seasoning times for wood . Ok may be a bit theoretical but the principles give food for thought. The manual is in English although it was obviously published in one of the Scandinavian countries.