Joy Yeomans

as said <=25% moisture content is the standard acceptable, humidity as dean rightly says will affect readings at different times of the year, aiming for around 25% , j

birch is one of the nicest woods to mix in, if you start just pandering to folks like that it spoils them, as all wood is good, if you give it time to dry out, soon we shall all have to offer mixed species whether hard or soft or mixed between them. nothing wrong with arb waste steve, and calling it waste doesnt help promote firewood sales really, as a good mixed load of wood priced accordinly well will be a good product to anyone - j:thumbup1:

tbh cant really see alot of timber left, it looks like the harvestors brashings, the top and branches that arent very big and leaving some standing deadwood for habitat, unless im missing something - brash baling is an option if terrain conditions permit - usual stuff as i can see

always good to wear a belt with c/saw trousers, to attach your first aid kit and tapes etc when you get further advanced. oregon do a pretty cheap pair of trousers that will suffice if your not sure whether to go into it too seriously yet. good luck

i think that if wood is too expensive those that have put in the wood burners will probably only use them for a year and the novelty will wear off? we try and offer our customers mixed loads and even softwood as a cheaper alternative to wholely hardwood loads - sellers selling wood too expensive are making a quick buck this time but probably doing more harm than good to the people whove been in this job a while - as yes they can always come back to us - but once bitten twice shy for alot of people and it may just be the excuse the housewife needs not to lite it ever again just my opinion j

biomass in this country i think is still a fair way off being accepted, but to be accepted the product needs to be a standard size to fit most smaller boilers, g30 and g40 for larger applications, the heizohacks, jenzs and musmaxs etc all produce a fairly consistant product with the use of slither screens or breakers, arb chip from tree surgeons chppers can still be sold to power stations for arouund £10/t

thanks chris, thats what i was trying to say, you can get most cranes to fit 3 point linkage, and as you very rightly put it consideration must be made to weight of tractor if needs be add wheel weights or ballast wheels, additional weights to front of tractor etc - if adding crane to tractor permanently, remember if tractor ever needs brakes sorting etc or clutch repaired you will have to split the tractor and most probably remove the crane, so a big job can get very big if roof mounted for firewood production just on 3pl would suffice as you wouldnt need to lift mega size pieces i would have thought and the tractor isnt compromised if needed to use it for other implements, buying a 3pl on its own 2nd hand could prove more difficult than buying a new one, as they are so versatile people usually hold on to them as a yard crane and never resell. - just my thoughts j i see also you said for "doing site work" , if going onto somewhere working a crane you really need to have FMOC certification to show competance and knowledge of risk zones i would have thought, unless for private use

hubby was using a mowi at apf for fuelwood, he was impressed by its price and how good a crane it was for the money, it can come 3pl to fit onto tractor - wouldnt lift as much as our botex but for firewood production ideal - worth looking into?

you little monkey - and get your own coffee next time:001_tt2: two sugars white ok charlie:lol:

charlie, can i have a sneak preview when your passing and be cheeky to see if it will be useful to us - cheers

no wood is bad, just needs drying out - when dry its good wood, if its free, collect it all and dry it off - free firewod for years sounds good to me

callum, your very young, with still alot to learn, take onboard comments that im sure are aimed at being helpful and not hurtful, if you do go down the self employed route its hard work but rewarding in so many ways - weve got your number if we need you - when ive had knockbacks theres always something to learn from it and do differently - after all hindsight is a wonderful thing - keep your chin up, all the best joy

id agree with andy mate, in this job, reputation is all, and if hes knicked from you, he may be light fingered at a customers sounds like youve got a magpie there

one of our lads had an agrument with someone that the logs wed delivered were sycamore and not as we were saying beech, he finally had to admit defeat when we said, well we felled them and they were out of a beech woodland - he couldnt comment anymore

9pm and just finished back at our yard, all 60 tonne bought back and in lovely log and 20 tonne of chip tipped safely back - well done fuelwood for a great stand and thanks to my lads for all hardwork - brill show and were all knackered now, but back to work tomorrow and hope everyone had a great show, didnt see much, only had chance to walk around for half an hour on saturday afternoon and only got to see the static area- great to see fellow arbtalkers and thanks for introducing yourselves to me, andy, steve, firewoodman and everyone else

sorry dave i wasnt about when you popped by, but Tony said youd called in, Roh knows what i type, but very often i dont mention whos posted what, just read the posts out to him - unless its for him directly etc - met a shed load of arbtalkers this apf, always good to meet folks and have a chat - all the best Mrs.L - Mr and the gang still at the show on the takedown for fuelwood, will still be helping prob til monday - oh that and being plyed with boozey party tonight

you got your kit then callum, glad you got sorted - always good to have a bag lady to help carry it all - all the best joy - nice to see you again after all this time - keep in touch mate

hope the FC W.Mids dont see this - their spending a fiar bit planting up eucs on cannock chase - hoping its an alternative that isnt going to get pytophora

yet again, it falls on the forestry contractor to make sure HE doesnt loose out - yet the boss dangles another carrot and gets what he wants anyone in the FCA - a good article on contractorsand how we often have to work to the tightest margins in this months mag.

saw this advert for firewood in an ebay listing - when i read it sounds like air seasoning is no good:sneaky2:thats going to ill inform yet more folks and further push the kiln dried sales - how can they list seasonsed at 30-50% mc - listing from a stove installer and the logs from a well known nation wide firewood firm (kiln dried if you know what i mean CW in green packaging )- "Seasoned logs are naturally air dried to an average moisture content of 30-50% and by the nature of the process, will vary between logs and species. Seasoned logs are naturally air dried to an average moisture content of 30-50% and by the nature of the process, will vary between logs and species. They are not suitable for immediate burning on stoves, but fine for open fires or further storage. All the wood is hardwood, sourced from Sustainable British Woodland and the logs are cut to an average length of 25cm."

looks good - make sure youve got a good lock, but wouldnt you use less fuel with a tipping truck? instead of towing??

Got few thousand left of seasoned softwood log netsstill available for wholesale collection, few thousand left of seasoned hardwood logs at £2.50 all can be palletised, sticks also available please sort out your own haulage, we can deliver minimum quantities for £1 per mile one way payment with order please, orders placed now for despatch beg. october before prices go up. ring 07970 040755 thanks joy and Rohan

we offer it to our customers - an added value if we chop the tree down, then can charge again for a days logging !

ah well , good thanks dave, ill try cutting into that pile we got dumped at the top of the farm - see whats happening 5 years on!