Joy Yeomans

jon, stanleys are great, weve had ours over 10 years, bought it second hand for £500 and had no probs, runs 8 radiators, hot water and cooking - all on larch and softwood - Mr. saves all the hardwood for customers - and no softwood isnt a dirty word its fantastic, banging hot water and always a whistling kettle for a drink, oven hot for stews/roasts and bottom oven for drying off those wet boots - hang a clothes airer from your ceiling over the top and dry all your washing as well - thats for mrs.jon. all the best joy

well it was inevitable really dave, we had our first bad egg of the year - and lets hope its the last - he was complaining about the moisture content of our load , after hed tried to get discount for noticing a spelling mistake on our web page! - hubby went to collect load as i said wed give a full refund and collect the load back if not happy - he was moisture metering with a log in his hand, covered in frost and snow after wed delivered to him on friday night late - in the snow - and pushed the moisture meter into the frost and read 32% after i said wed guarantee 25% and below - hubby explained you had to split the log in two to get an accurate reading in these extreme weather times - but wanted more discount and more logs - so we said no find another supplier - 500 tonnes delivered so far this season and no complaints - had to find one bad egg I suppose ! take note people who deliver to blackbrook near newcastle - beware of this bad egg! he even wanted another 3m3 to give in compensation! and then talk of trading standards - he didnt like it when i said bring it on we have nothing to hide in measure or moisture measuring. also said there was larch in - it turned out to be debarked Beech ! aarrghh - i suppose one bad egg in 500 loads aint bad! so far so good joy just goes to show a little bit of knowledge can be dangerous - or a moisture meter in the wrong hands - no good pressing moisture meter into a wet outer skin of the log - push it into the split open centre to give an accurate reading -

stick it out big man, your time will come! - weve had a hell of alot of people selling, well i wont call it logs, wood round us and our sales had dropped off, but we stuck to our guns with our prices and did not drop even after loads of phone calls saying "we can get it cheaper from ...." i did not drop - and true to form have had three regulars come back who bought the so called cheap logs - first load was all twigs one said, second customer said was wet wood and another customer said all pallet wood with a few logs thrown on top - so hang on in there - as everyone says winter has just started joy.

well dave, thats why we do mostly wholesale, pallets on a forklift me and the sister in law can shift about - barrow bags - leave to you beefy boys with your hernias and overweight transits:lol: its like ive always said in my previous threads - logs are hard work and there will be a lot coming back out of them after year 1, when they realise the amount of kit and man power you need to shift stuff. hope its all ok thou Dave - joking aside:001_huh: buy off the baron and save yourself alot of work:thumbup: joy

hi jon, delivered a load yesterday to a chap who had one, Rohan went in the house to check it out as he's a regular customer who purchased it this year, and swears by it , he got the bigger size one apparently and it really moves the heat upstairs he thinks - one tip he gave us as to the purchase - buy one from a chandlers or canal boat stores as he picked his up from our local marina and paid less than he saw them for on ebay - apparently all the canal boat people have them and they really help move the heat around their barges. even so i think it was about £130 - dont quote me i could be wrong as Mr. is out again this morning delivering - all the best jon - i definately think we will buy one for the top of our stanley joy

after shifting the 600 cube dave will you still be shifting it in barrow bags? and with your profit go for a brand new back operation:thumbdown:

stood at the farmers market selling logs today and bloomin freezin, then we got back and two wholesale collections one after the other from the yard - love the cold weather for trade - hate it for frozen sheep troughs and barn waters frozen for the hens - oh well never mind. j.

got a good german one from ebay, measures from 0 to three figures with decimal increments in between, definately worth the £36 - had no problems with it in two years and we are constantly using it for milling timber and firewood

the thing to bear in mind would be condensation id have thought if doors shut, and then the wood turning mouldy possibly? but its something weve thought off, but i think would you need a fan to draw the warm air across and the damp cold air back out? good luck, keep us posted

all tractors anti freezed up and ready for the cold - dont mind the cold its the wet we hate, started feeding hay to my sheep - its started!

youd do well to just plumb a few radiators off a back boiler stove upstairs to make sure your upstairs rooms are warm, otherwise if not, ive heard good reports on the Morso range , a friend told me to check that the stoves are good heavy cast iron as alot ive heard are only mild steel - also heard from a friend so dont know how true this statement is - i would just add, that make sure your chimney has a good draw, we recenlty went to a house where they were having problems with the stove, blaiming stove, wood - anything, and my husband pointed out that the yew tree was blocking the chimney stack and not allowing a good draw from this, he went and cleared it for them and they havnent had any more problems - also i know of a stove installer who fitted a very shallow flue to an ouside wall and this didnt create any draft either. - hope you get sorted j.

our transit tipper body measures 2.5m3, we empty two m3 vented bags in the back and sell as a 2m3 load and it comes level with the sides, so allowing .5m3 air space - we sell this load as a 2m3 , we can get in 3m3 if heaped up in the middle.

when customers ring up, and i go through my sale patter with differnt products and prices, i state that softwood is ideal in a wood burner as it can spit but produces alot of heat quickly and is an ideal alternative to hardwood for an economical load j.

relucant, - ive read all the posts, and i would err on the side of "what goes around comes around " by that i mean, both me and my husband are what id say as "nice" and weve had alot of people step on us, probably cause were too nice and im not hard headed enough to be the mean business person i perhaps should (i make no bones about my christian attitude to people and always want to see the best in people and not the worst) however, when youve had a few knocks and it seems like your getting that too, i would do what weve done in the past, learn from it, move on and improve your business, we still want to see the best in people rather than the worst, but now weve hardended ourselves to be more balanced and not take what people say as gospel - be more cautious - everyone is usually after something, no matter how they say their not. if this man is moving into logs let him, we have plenty round us, and we usually supply them with wholesale sticks etc for their businesses, find your neiche or improve your service, when people know how genuine and trustworthy and nice you are, they will probably stick with you over someone who probably isnt - dobbing someone in i wouldnt do, it may tarnish you and i would never do it, they will probably get caught in their own time dont resort to violence, this achieves nothing and causes more problems, turn the other cheek, get on with your buisness and put it all down to experience and i dont think calling someone ill educated samtheman is very nice, the lady was speaking obviously off the cuff with hot headed remarks to let off steam on a forum joy

gmc dont make me laugh to hard, ive got a stinking cold and its interferring with the nose blowing equipment! got some dodgy irish euros - are they worth anything:001_tt2: joy

thats it he only makes a good profit "if he can shift the stuff" and at those prices imo, i think its too expensive and does the firewood industry as a whole no good at all, as its like burning £5 notes! and who can afford that - were still in a recession. promotion of firewood must be done to give firewood an element of being cost effective not for a select few who can afford luxury kiln dried imports. - we must promote the industry to compete or better oil, gas and electric. just my opinion j.

doesnt matter if its kiln dried or air dried its the nature of the wood, - all softwoods spit, as does chestnut and some others - great wood but best in a woodburner or with a fireguard

why dont you start doing gardening?

i like the measurements for 2cube as you say 1.2x1x1.2 is definately no where near 2 cube, and we just had a bottle of wine of a fairly new client picked up this year, had his second load of us, he says our air dired is way better than previously bought CW kiln dried, ours lasts and no tar given off etc, - another old customer who we said the price had to go up from last year - to £168 for 2m3 said, well i dont mind paying as there the best logs ive had for many years and ive tried eveyone! as i say, kiln dried is ok, but you could describe them as rocket fuel, as they go up like a torch, but only if kept the right way, once put in a damp area, they suck up moisture like a sponge - i dont have a problem with kiln dried but it reads that eveything else other suppliers supply is rubbish - imo j.

firewood sold to customers out of "season" is a practical measure to ensure customers have a good supply , its no different to the coal merchants offering "special prices" for coal during june/august as they do round here i really dont think we should be promoting imports into the domestic market, how did we get these current diseases we have in the forestry system in the first place, imports im thinking. we have enough softwood wood in this country to promote for softwood as an alternative to the stove users, not imported hardwoods, and this would give our home foresters/timber transporters/firewood merchants/woodland owners/managers a better boost than lining the importers pocket j.

dont you just love tractors , one of the old majors had to have some running repairs tonight decided to start playing up on tick over so the lads took the rocker cover off and sorted it - a bit easier than repairing the big tractors that weve got:biggrin:

fendts really hold their money, even more so than deeres, have a big wallet when you buy one! have you considered a big old case, they come in still from arable farms with hardly any pto work done and just used to pull big ploughs - a consideration? j.

weve got a 185/65 65k about nearly 50mph i think - i stand to be corrected if wrong - and had no problems with it, pulls the timber trailer with a full load on now weve got new bolsters and new drawbar on the trailer had a full load of sycamore trunks on weighing 18t no probs, been carting wholecrop silage back out of very wet fields this back end and straw carting pulling 20t artic trailers no problem, the only downside is the turning circle when following the forager but theres not many big john deeres that weve had a only a bit better , pulled well and had alot of plant on the back, winches etc and chipper and not had any problems, running all night straw carting had to fill tank up and that is thirsty at about 150 ltrs i think at 50p a ltr red still not bad and our big deeres use just as much juice - particluarly like the brakes easy to get to like on lorries. plus plent of space in the cab for a fridge box and kids j.

if youve got it in a ride side stack, there are formulas to work out the stack measure to weight over volume of stack for different species, i cant, but Mr. and the lads do it alot, i think if you google it or someone a bit more knowledgeable than me will probably have the formulas - however nothing beats going over a weighbridge and as foresters you want it over that weighbridge asap! mrs. j.

ey up big man - we all love logs but dont take it too far:001_tt2: is your land near a road? could you put a sign at the end of your lane? or similar, post flyers in your local pub or post office? try ebay for local sales? what about driving around with a load on and parking up in your local busy car park , i guarantee someone will come over and ask how much and can i buy a similar load etc - print a few cards cheap or photocopy something to hand out - could ask your local coal merchant to work in with you a bit? hope this gives you a bit of someting to go on, oh and those magnetic signs will help cheap but effective anything will do to start, we started many moons ago with something i photocopied and laminated for our old series II landrover windows, it worked, and cost very little. all the best j.