Lockdown - has it totally failed?

[Sutton]

11 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

Not gonna find me napping.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfrvOEnoaCM

 

[Billhook]

There were an estimated 58,100 excess winter deaths in England and Wales in 2017/18 - the highest recorded since winter 1975/76, figures from the Office for National Statistics show.

The number of excess winter deaths observed in 2017/18 was higher than all years since the 1975/76 winter period, when there were 58,100 extra deaths. The last peak was in 2014/15, when there were 43,850 excess deaths - which was the worst figure since the millennium.

 

I do not remember any hysteria or even anything in the press about this.  58,100 deaths in 2017 seems a lot more than the 35,000 thousand we have from Covid.

In uk we have about 650,000 deaths a year from all causes.  It will be interesting to see how much this figure changes by the end of the year.  Was the virus just hastening the demise of people who were near the end.

 

I suspect herd immunity is the hard answer.  There must be a reason why some people catch it and hardly know they have it.

Perhaps a contaminated door handle which is very dangerous for a short time can act like a vaccine after many hours as the virus dies and gives a light dose of the virus which can allow the immune system to cope with it

Edited May 18, 2020 by Billhook

[Stubby]

10 hours ago, Wonky said:

Did you mean thiss... I thought this was very clear.  Are you following ???

 

Very similar  . It was Matt Lucas taking off Boris just after his speech recently .

[Woodworks]

11 hours ago, Squaredy said:

Let's see what happens as we ease the lockdown.

Cases start rising and more deaths I imagine unless we are smarter about our behaviour. 

 

The Covid tracker app is already showing a slight increase of new cases.

 

Oh and a heads up from the other side. My OH got back from her shift on a Covid ward yesterday and there is still not enough PPE for the current low level of cases! 

Edited May 18, 2020 by Woodworks

[Stere]

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The Covid tracker app is already showing a slight increase of new cases.

Can't find this increase got a link?

 

This?

 

Covid Radar

COVID.JOINZOE.COM

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Discover levels of COVID infection in your area based on millions of contributors to the COVID Symptom Tracker

 

[Woodworks]

4 hours ago, Stere said:

Can't find this increase got a link?

 

This?

 

Covid Radar

COVID.JOINZOE.COM

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Discover levels of COVID infection in your area based on millions of contributors to the COVID Symptom Tracker

 

They dont update the graph very often but I have been logging the numbers each day. It could be just a blip but does not look like its dropping any more. And a graph someone had made of recent numbers. 

 

10th  245693

11th   244191

12th  242965

13th  244600

14th  243517

15th 245913

16th 248600

17th  252926

 

Edit. Page now updated showing the rise 

Covid Radar

COVID.JOINZOE.COM

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Discover levels of COVID infection in your area based on millions of contributors to the COVID Symptom Tracker

 

 

Edited May 18, 2020 by Woodworks

[Johnsond]

Deploy army on Border to stop lockdown trips, says Highland councillor

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THE army should be deployed on the Border to stop people who flout lockdown restrictions travelling...

The sheer stupidity of this is beyond belief. The SNP is dragging Scotland down a different route for purely political reasons. Army on the borders WTF, who do these arseholes think they are ?‍♂️. 

Are we not allowed to think for ourselves or take our own precautions or do we need a control freak SNP government to dictate how we exist and function on a day to day basis. 

 

[Khriss]

My responsible social exclusion, just how I like it  ?

[Khriss]

( got a key for every gate here )  k

[waterbuoy]

47 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

Deploy army on Border to stop lockdown trips, says Highland councillor

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THE army should be deployed on the Border to stop people who flout lockdown restrictions travelling...

The sheer stupidity of this is beyond belief. The SNP is dragging Scotland down a different route for purely political reasons. Army on the borders WTF, who do these arseholes think they are ?‍♂️. 

Are we not allowed to think for ourselves or take our own precautions or do we need a control freak SNP government to dictate how we exist and function on a day to day basis. 

 

Believe it or not the Councillor is not even affiliated to the SNP but stands as an independent.