Rob D
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Haha! Yes it's only banter - well I spoke to the Rotatech gents at the APF and we may get some of your 1/4 .043 to try on the Sugi bars.
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If you are professional and reliable you could do well - we are always asked 'do you know someone in xyz that does mobile saw milling' By going to the shows making good contacts and providing a good service I'm sure there is plenty of work out there.
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But will it be the 1/4 .043 or 1/4 .050? I've rung them to find out and hopefully it'll be the .043 option..
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I doubt it on either - someone called Charlie got a display one from the APF and it is pretty much the same saw but a bit wider. We have 10" Sugi bar/chain combos here GROUP 0 Echo chainsaws Archives - Sugihara Guide Bars No one seems to know what bar and chain it will come with - and it's pretty hard going trying to get info out of the importers! Will e-mail them again today....
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Haha! Annnnnnnndddddddddd back round to the old verse! Yawn!
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Strange as it takes me to the right page - but then that's computers for you! To start with we'll be doing this with the bar + chain just so that people are using the right chain with the right bar... We've looked at how the Sugi chain meshes with the Stihl bar and really it's not far off... but not sure if this would still cause issues with the drive links getting peened.
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Try this. I need to add it to the 'Group 0' Echo saws - which is really only the 2511TES (and also Echo Pole saw although I need to find out if they do a 1/4 drive sprocket). 10? Sugi Pro lam ? 1/4? .043 56 drive links EM1M-4V25-A + Sugi chain - Sugihara Guide Bars I need to do a vid on the new Sugi 1/4 .043 bars as we have them in 10",12" and 14". Failing that the part number is EM1M-4V25-A
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Thanks for the pics Charlie - did it come with a solid nose carving bar with Oregon 25AP? That chain can feel skittish. Trouble is you got the first one and so this running gear may not be standard on all the other saws to come....
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I'm not forgetting any of that and Rotatech did ever so well - let me make the question clearer: What chain (Manufacturer and part number) was the other leading brand of chainsaw the Rotatech chain was racing against? Come on you know you want to tell us!
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With the size of these companies could they not come out with a new concept of how a chainsaw cuts wood? Actual proper innovation?? In climbing there are all sorts that have come out and continue to come out - SRT variations, the zigzag etc etc With chainsaw chain it seems the equivalent of bringing out slightly different rope material for the same VT hitch....
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Chain on the right seems a little dull - and why be shy about it - come on 'leading brand' = ???????? :laugh1:
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Charlie bought his off a stand at the end of the show - what bar and chain did it come with Charlie and can you post some pics up of what it came with - inc any numbers on the chain? We now have the Sugi 1/4 .043 bars and Sugi chain to go on these - doing a combo deal here as you can't run the Stihl 1/4 .043 on the Sugi bar and vice versa (or maybe you can but the chain does not quite mesh as well as it should with the nose sprocket - I'll do a vid on this). 10? Sugi Pro lam ? 1/4? .043 56 drive links EM1M-4V25-A + Sugi chain - Sugihara Guide Bars Would be good to see your thoughts on how you find the Sugi chain - you are the first in the UK to have one!
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Exactly and one can only think what happened to the quality of Husky bars when they switched to making them themselves... Would be good to have some proper testing done on chains by everyday folk and at least see if there are some common findings...
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Hmmmmmm - It's a lovely presented vid - but all the terms used to describe it are vague - "great performance" "really like the way it did this that and...." "sharp straight out of the box" And funny how all the Husqvarna team really like it so much but no hard facts! What about some direct chain for chain comparisons!? Can they not test their X cut with a Stihl and Oregon chain in that nice looking lab? Maybe just maybe they have done that... I feel a chain test in the offing but except unlike files testers will know what chain they are testing and hence be biased. Any ideas?!
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I think more the chain - I bet when you've used it for a bit you may find that it stretches and then you could take a link out and it would fit fine. A true test is put a new oregon chain on there - but I did that in the video and on a 7 pin it fit fine.... Just because their 72 d/l chain fits on the 20" bar doesn't translate to the 84 d/l fitting the 25" bar. So at this stage I'd say it is because of a slight shorter chain length on that make of chain - but no big deal and adding another drive link solves it.
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Hmmmm - I'm stumped Do you have anyone who can add a drive link for you? What chain manufacturer was it by the way?
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:lol:
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Ah so he did.... in that case double check the chain - it may say 84 d/l on the box but maybe it's 83 and this would explain things....
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Stihl and Husky confuse the issue a little because the 24" Husky is the same length as equivalent 25" Stihl - they just like to call it different lengths! But bars are same length and take same chain. What drive rim/sprocket are you using?- possibly it is an 8 pin and this may mean another drive link for the Sugi bar.... [ame] [/ame] Apologies for vid angles. Really with a new set up on an 8 pin you need an 85 drive link chain.
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Thanks for having us on your stand Justin - was great to catch up with people - still got a sore throat now! (...from talking that is before anyone thinks to ad lib!!) Would have liked to have a look around but didn't manage to step foot outside the tent!
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Oh ok good stuff!
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We have em now in again Mike so order when you're ready!
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Any pics there? Always seems to get folk more interested....
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We'll be in resident in Jonsie tent this year - we will be throwing in stuff if you buy a mill etc. We can't bring all the Sugi bars with us - but there will be some cheeky deals to be had particularly on carving bars and other bars we over ordered. Also if you just want to come and have a chat about milling etc. I'm there tom and Thursday, Laurence Friday and Sat.
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Sounds good - such a simple idea you wonder why no one did it years ago - so thanks go to SawTroll for them.
