Rob D

Haha! Yep... unbelievably they are still being held [it's another consignment in the same shipping container that's causing the problem].

Maybe but not all the time. Egos come into it, politics come into it. I don't think it is all about the money. There are some weird power games played at the top and there is a lot more placed on the ability to 'control' rather than simply making money.

What a great question - and I truly mean that. It's the sort of question we should be asking much more of. Us lowly mortals will never know what the manufacturers true intentions are. I doubt it is what they publish in their shiny catelogues. Even free speech feels hampered as there are certain things that are obvious but are not allowed to be said too loudly... even on here. I've had messages in the past telling me it would be 'wise not to pursue that line of enquiry too hard'. Don't think it doesn't happen - it does. The higher up you go the more shadier the deals. Everything at the sales end is very polished and official - your perception is it gets more polished and official as you go up... it doesn't! Our issue is we tend to accept everything that is fed to us by official news broadcast or shiny sales catelogue. We should question everything we are told. Everything! Yes tuning may be sacrificed to keep to emissions standards - but we don't know if that is true. We don't have the know how to say if this is true. Spud probably has a better idea but again - if he started bringing out real evidence to contrary and making too loud a noises maybe there would be a few safety related policies of 'thou shalt not modify your saw as you are putting yourself and workers at risk [no doubt with a couple of gory stories of how so and so modified his saw and because of this injured or killed someone else]'. Health and safety is of the utmost of importance in this industry - so why is much of health and safety not about health and safety? Why are we not making more noise about it? Why can joe bloggs go to B&Q and buy a chainsaw without the accompanying safety gear - it is complete and utter madness!! Most injuries we have are by one handing a top handle in a tree or on the ground - answer? Put writing all over the box to say 'don't use this saw unless you blah blah blah' no one reads this! What's the point of it? That's not health and safety that's just a blatant waste of paper! Us smaller folk can quickly be cut down by the big players hence I feel brave enough to post this on here but would not be brave enough to make a big deal of it... but that may change. Things need to change in my opinion. And it'll be us that needs to do it... Spud has been doing his stuff long enough and well enough to be good at it. He has to be to be successful to get work. That is a good motivation to be good at what you do. He may not have the same resources and facilities but because he is his own man and has clear objectives without having his hands tied by politics and nonsense likely his opinions and thoughts carry more weight than virtually anyone else out there offical or otherwise. Anyways sorry not sure where that lot came from - but I am de railing this thread so apologies all. Was going to delete it all but sod it not going to!

Manufacturers are forced to improve emissions because someone in a high place has deemed it so. Whether they are there to protect us is debateable. Whether regualtions are there to protect us is debateable. I'm not saying they are or they are not - I'm saying it's certainly not clear about the intentions behind much of todays regulation. I deal with manufacturers and believe me you are incorrect if you think their motives and ways of production are all about making the best possible product for the best price within regulations. It's not even as close to being as simple as that. It's a shame but that is how it is. Calling Spud 'a chap in a shed with a file' IS knocking his skills so why not be honest about that?

Hi James - ok will chase up and see what's occuring on that one. Rob

Thanks for posting Wes - good in depth review - I may pinch a few bits and make up a write up to go on the website with your permission.

Not tried with an older style saw myself - but I would have thought the same principles would have applied ie once the set up is fully engaged in the cut it will slow both saw down to whatever the cut speed is. But like most things there are prob no truly hard and fast rules.

If you change the drive rim/sprocket to .404 on the 066 and use one of these with the 066.

Honestly I can tell you it works really well - the results of milling speed which is literally x2 - is good enough to say it works. But good point there maybe I need to set up a wee speed test. Be interesting to see if x2 60cc saws could beat an 880!

Yep you got it. The teenager will never be able to push a heavy car fast enough for the man to no longer need to push it. They both need to push it. If the car was somehow weightless and on magnets then yes there would be the issue of the teenager out pacing the man.

Haha! I'm now starting to worry about it! I think it's ok - because both saws are trying to push that chain around the bar. You'd have to have no load on it for it for one saw to affect the other.

Yep but I did an article here - every combo of very different mis matched saws worked - as in worked in practice rather than not worked in theory. It doesn't seem to matter how much I say this or write it not many seem to believe me Any combo between a 70cc and 120cc saw should work. Double ended milling is awesome when it works - and a right pain in the backside when it does not.

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The ship seems to be quarnatined on a health issue for some reason! So apologies not sure when they are unpacking will feedback when we know more.

If you just want the GB lo pro rim use the postage reducer tool or PM me after order and I'll refund the postage.

Hi Tom - I chased up the shippers about this but no reply yet - I expect the Woodchucks to dock this weekend or early next week. The Sugi bars ship has docked... Sorry I can't be more specific. Soon as I have more news will post up. Yes can look at milling the beech as long as there is no time scale involved. Usually in these scenarios I just go halves on the wood with you. Send some pics and details over to [email protected]

Good stats - let us know when you have the vids posted and I'll refund the order.

It's pretty hard to nail down bars for these older saws - your best bet is to check out the pics of the bar mounts on the Oregon site and then match that up with what think you need for the saw then see if that bar part number still exists. There is no easy way - Frontier shows up on the Oregon Selector here but not that model number: http://www.oregonproducts.co.uk/en-gb/parts-lookup/chain-bar-sprocket-selector-guide/selector-guide.html

It doesn't work quite that way - the 27RX is better really on the 64" bars and longer - 48" you are better with 27RA [full skip not hyper skip]. If you push hard the skip/hyper skip doesn't bog the chain down. If you push less hard there is not much difference [except you may overheat the powerhead]. It gives you a larger push power window - hence the user friendliness.

A cheeky by 2 get the 3rd [whichever is the cheapest] bar free [we will refund back to you after the order]. On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 4:01 PM Chainsawbars <[email protected]> wrote:

Yep - hopefully as Oregon continue to roll out their new chains then they may address the VXL issues - but as said it works really well on the larger saws!

I did a vid on tuning an Echo here - it worked really well [I have very little knowledge in tuning etc] but it was an odd routine to run through - both saws were running rough, slow to pick up... after the tuning both were loverly! It is a D shaped tuning tool you need.. Am not allowed to publish Echo tuning info publicly [no idea why not] but I daresay a PM to me on here may yield info if you need it!

As a thread derail - using the 91vxl on a 390XP milling worked really well - the additional power on a bigger saw got the chain pulling it's way really well down the grain even though the chain angle was the usual 30 degrees.. but it seems a lot of folk have said this chain is way too aggresive for smaller saws.

Yep sure I can get one but it will have to come in next order...

Yep - it's only a concept at the moment - ie. it exists only in my mind! But will post results when I come round to testing it out [but looking at over months rather than weeks].