Rob D

Yep if it could be done these people are on the whole hard working and inteligent - they must have some staying power to do the jobs they do! They could re train - what as would be another topic..

I do get where you're coming from but to clarify a few of the points you make: We are not looking at whether we pay tax or not. It's clear we need to pay tax, we need schools, we need hospitals, we need a welfare system - we are looking at how that tax is calculated and collected. I go to the library regularly with my daughter - they often run groups from a library and I'd say these are valuable resources. I worked 4 years in the NHS and I can tell you point blank the waste and the way things are carried out is shocking. The NHS has become like politics - management look to kiss upwards ie. as long as their boss is happy they are happy. Plugging more money into a badly managed system will not give better care. I left the NHS because of this - it is so silly you are unable to actually do your job. It is more important covering your backside against potential litigation than looking after patients!! Accountants save you more than they cost - true - but only because the system is set up in that way. You sya you don't understand it - it's because it's too complicated. My arguement is the system needs to be simplified so ok you still have an accountant, they still save you money - but maybe they only cost 10-15% of what they cost now. The rich do not pay tax. The big corporations do not pay tax. If you are rich you set up trusts in places like the Channel Islands and other offshore havens. Big multi national corporations do not pay nearly as much tax as they should and there is no way of making them. You can Google this - it is known but gov seems powerless to make them pay. So if you are rich enough to bank offshore or your business is large enough to be a full multi national then you don't pay tax or if you do it's a fraction of the tax you should pay. That needs to change and be more easily enforceable.

I reckon these are great ideas - simplifies things. Things have to be simplified - the staffing cost to back up and manage all the different rules and regs create a tax burden by themselves! 40,000 appeals !? Think of the time and money that goes into them - completely non productive... it is madness.

There's a lot of extreme arguements going on here that are best seen a bit more shade of grey... I think we all know that we need to give a portion of our income as tax. We all need schools and healthcare. But are there any facts and figures to show how large the gov has become year on year in terms of manpower etc? I can't find any by Google... Would it not be best to have simple plain rules that everyone understood and required less paperwork? Someone said a tax on producers at source - that seems a much simpler way of calculating and gathering a VAT type tax? Then pretty much no one else has to deal with it but the producers? They already add VAT to imports - why not just leave it at that and collect that? Is it just because the end price the consumer pays + vat nets more money than the import price/producer price + vat? Because that would not be worth the paperwork....... ah......... but it is if gov does not have to pay for that. Got to be a simpler way of doing things. Got to be.

Yep I thought that - but then I thought instead of paying £8-£10k in accountancy and book keeping fees - I'll keep £2k to a year of that to then investigate their dodgy calculations. They wouldn't try it again - exactly what they do to us.

Nope! Just not going to take it entirely in the all fours position from now on. At least they could flip me on my back for a change of position would be something at least ?

That's Rage Against the Machine going on for a bit this morning at any rate.... ?

The whole system is a complete and utter farce and the joke is - we all put up with it! What is the alternative? I dunno but maybe that's a start to begin talking about an alternative.

I often find myself when paying the book keeper and accountant and trying to squeeze in all the mundane paperwork [completely pointless and unnecessary] side of things - just what is it all for? For tax of course! Why do you do it? Because you would go to prison if you didn't! I mean when you think on it it's a beautiful system - ref VAT not only do we have to pay back the gov the surplus tax - we have to collect this for them and also calculate it for them ie. it costs us time and money to do what is in effect their job. And then send them the money! What if a customer called you to tell them they were taking a tree down - we told them 'make sure you have the right gear and safety equipment or we'll pay a visit'. The customer takes the tree down, gets rid of the waste and then sends you a cheque in the post. If the customer moans that this is unfair we reply 'please don't complain, this is a legal requirement and anyway we need your money for the benefit of the country and it will be well spent'. It is getting to the point where you do feel like strapping on a yellow vest and standing outside Westminster! Lots of folk say 'you got to do it why moan about it, you can't change anything' - my reply would be at least by moaning about it you are doing something about it. It's about all you are allowed to do.

Italian?! Or have you pressed the translate into Italian button at the top of the website? No we don't do harvester chain I'm afraid.

Nice Josh - besides saving cash it is a handy skill to have.

I put together the new Woodchuck TimberPro the other day. Same quality as the other tools - this has a slightly smaller throat than the TimberJack and an extra saw dog to help hold the log in place. https://www.chainsawbars.co.uk/product/wct03-woodchuck-timber-jack/

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Yep I do love the love pro - it smoothly devours wood. Although messed up today - did a first cut last night, came back to the job and went to cut the next plank and mill kept trying to rise off the log... strange I think and come from the other side - not much better. Put the first cut rails on and oh - looks like my flat first cut was not that flat - re sawed it and bingo - x6 2.5" 6ft planks all super flat in a couple of easy hours work.

Good honest thread - takes me back a few years One simple practice is - look around the room now. What could you do to make the room better? Make it better. Next time you speak to the missus or your son or daughter or anyone - what could you do to make this interaction better? Make it better. Next time you do a task - how could you do it a little better than last time. You're about to add a post to this thread - what could you do to make this post better? You get the picture. Keep practising this process again and again and make it a habit. I've not managed it yet but I'm on the path!

Haha! Yep... unbelievably they are still being held [it's another consignment in the same shipping container that's causing the problem].

Maybe but not all the time. Egos come into it, politics come into it. I don't think it is all about the money. There are some weird power games played at the top and there is a lot more placed on the ability to 'control' rather than simply making money.

What a great question - and I truly mean that. It's the sort of question we should be asking much more of. Us lowly mortals will never know what the manufacturers true intentions are. I doubt it is what they publish in their shiny catelogues. Even free speech feels hampered as there are certain things that are obvious but are not allowed to be said too loudly... even on here. I've had messages in the past telling me it would be 'wise not to pursue that line of enquiry too hard'. Don't think it doesn't happen - it does. The higher up you go the more shadier the deals. Everything at the sales end is very polished and official - your perception is it gets more polished and official as you go up... it doesn't! Our issue is we tend to accept everything that is fed to us by official news broadcast or shiny sales catelogue. We should question everything we are told. Everything! Yes tuning may be sacrificed to keep to emissions standards - but we don't know if that is true. We don't have the know how to say if this is true. Spud probably has a better idea but again - if he started bringing out real evidence to contrary and making too loud a noises maybe there would be a few safety related policies of 'thou shalt not modify your saw as you are putting yourself and workers at risk [no doubt with a couple of gory stories of how so and so modified his saw and because of this injured or killed someone else]'. Health and safety is of the utmost of importance in this industry - so why is much of health and safety not about health and safety? Why are we not making more noise about it? Why can joe bloggs go to B&Q and buy a chainsaw without the accompanying safety gear - it is complete and utter madness!! Most injuries we have are by one handing a top handle in a tree or on the ground - answer? Put writing all over the box to say 'don't use this saw unless you blah blah blah' no one reads this! What's the point of it? That's not health and safety that's just a blatant waste of paper! Us smaller folk can quickly be cut down by the big players hence I feel brave enough to post this on here but would not be brave enough to make a big deal of it... but that may change. Things need to change in my opinion. And it'll be us that needs to do it... Spud has been doing his stuff long enough and well enough to be good at it. He has to be to be successful to get work. That is a good motivation to be good at what you do. He may not have the same resources and facilities but because he is his own man and has clear objectives without having his hands tied by politics and nonsense likely his opinions and thoughts carry more weight than virtually anyone else out there offical or otherwise. Anyways sorry not sure where that lot came from - but I am de railing this thread so apologies all. Was going to delete it all but sod it not going to!

Manufacturers are forced to improve emissions because someone in a high place has deemed it so. Whether they are there to protect us is debateable. Whether regualtions are there to protect us is debateable. I'm not saying they are or they are not - I'm saying it's certainly not clear about the intentions behind much of todays regulation. I deal with manufacturers and believe me you are incorrect if you think their motives and ways of production are all about making the best possible product for the best price within regulations. It's not even as close to being as simple as that. It's a shame but that is how it is. Calling Spud 'a chap in a shed with a file' IS knocking his skills so why not be honest about that?

Hi James - ok will chase up and see what's occuring on that one. Rob

Thanks for posting Wes - good in depth review - I may pinch a few bits and make up a write up to go on the website with your permission.

Not tried with an older style saw myself - but I would have thought the same principles would have applied ie once the set up is fully engaged in the cut it will slow both saw down to whatever the cut speed is. But like most things there are prob no truly hard and fast rules.

If you change the drive rim/sprocket to .404 on the 066 and use one of these with the 066.

Honestly I can tell you it works really well - the results of milling speed which is literally x2 - is good enough to say it works. But good point there maybe I need to set up a wee speed test. Be interesting to see if x2 60cc saws could beat an 880!

Yep you got it. The teenager will never be able to push a heavy car fast enough for the man to no longer need to push it. They both need to push it. If the car was somehow weightless and on magnets then yes there would be the issue of the teenager out pacing the man.