Rob D

On the Dime Tip bars everyone seems to use the Stihl carving chain 3661-13RMS Stihl Carving Micro Chisel 1/4 .050 But what is the choice most use on Quarter Tip bars? We are working on new carving leaflets and to make it easier will have x1 chain on offer - what do you reckon works best?

Yep - 'We have found unequivocal proof of Iranian involvement'!

I think if you acknowledge it then you are morally obliged to do something about it. That is a crazy statistc. What would happen if that money/time/energy were put into the planet... or even just not put into bombs.

What is so crazy is they don't even have to do that much to get a war! A couple of explosions and off they go. It is sickening - how many fanatics were and are being created? If this country was attacked and your family killed or worse - what would be your mindset be against those that had done it? Especially when those that had done it had deliberatly caused the attack in the first place? Only hope I can see is America has such a catastrophic economic crisis they will not be able to fund another war. It's a long shot I know..

I don't watch terrestial news - I don't see it as news. I see this latest crisis as a crude attempt to start a war - wasn't Vietnam started due to an attack on an American ship [Gulf of Tonkin attack] that later it seemed never happened or certainly the facts are in a lot of doubt? Iraq and weapons of mass destruction that never were? Once enough time passes it seems no one cares that much... I've seen reports [un researched] that one of the owners of the tankers hit by a 'mine' say that his crew reported it was definately a projectile of some form. Doesn't the evidence need to be overwhelming before starting a war? Are we really going to do it all over again?

I don't know you tell me I suppose it is what it is - some people will think the price worthwhile and pay it, others will see the price as too high and won't. It's a Stihl vs Husky debate with no real answer. I always think that if there was one overall leader that was the best [combined with price point] we would only sell that one. The option is there if you want it.

Nope I think Doug and Ed Robinsoin will still be selling the bars but we will be looking to expand on the range you can currently get in the UK.

Good sized yew - around 120-140 years at a guess.... we didn't have the heart to count the rings.

It's a hard one to say - a bit like what's best Stihl or Husky. Some like GB and some like Cannon and those that like their chosen bar will defend it... My pennysworth - all 60"+ bars will flex a fair bit and I would see little difference between a Cannon or GB.

We are now officially the main distributer for Cannon Bars in the UK. We placed our first smallish order 1st May 2019. Lead time is 4 months. Shipping time is 1 month. Our distribution company Always Greener Ltd now have the 'Big Four' independant bar manufacturers - Cannon, GB, Sugihara and Tsumura. There are other smaller companies but these four are 40 years+ each in the business and that sort of bar making knowledge is not gained quickly.. So we'll be seeing these 1st October 2019 [or thereabouts - times are always approx]. Part of this order will have the absolutely brand spanking new light Cannon bars which are made in a totally different way to the other manufacturers. We only have these in the smaller bars this time round... We'll be doing a pre order offer starting next month which will include: Buy any Cannon bar 16th June 2019 - 16th July get x3 chains of your choice free Buy any Cannon bar 16th July 2019 - 16th August get x2 chains of your choice free Buy any Cannon bar 16th August 2019 - 16th September get x1 chain of your choice free Also - our order dates for Cannon are 1st May, 2019, 1st August 2019, 1st November 2019, 1st Febuary 2020, 1st May 2020 etc in effect every 3 months. If you have a request for a Cannon bar you can pre order for a 25% disc off RRP - you would pay for it before the next order date - again bear in mind delivery would be 5 months after the order dates above. E mail me for that on [email protected] We can do this with Cannon as the MOQ per bar is not set ie. unlike other manufacturers where we have to order at least x30 per bar length/type with Cannon we can do single bars at a time... We already have the Cannon carving bar range - prices are a little cheaper in the short term for these and can be found here on www.chainsawbars.co.uk or in the Carving Arena selector. .

I'm hoping to be very pleasantly surprised when the time comes

Yep it must have been used as a stone catcher tree buy kids at some point as never found anything like it before...

This was a while ago but only just got round to editing - a truly hideous tree...

This is the vid [which I'll post as a seperate thread] where the flint dulled one side not the other. Could not believe the force causing the mill to rise in the cut - no amount of weight would keep it down!

I got one specially made 8 years ago when I knew no different... Tungsten carbide: Due to the nature of the material you can never get it sharp like a chrome/steel chain - at it's very sharpest it cuts like a dull chain It is hideously expensive You hit something and instead of bad blunting the whole tooth gets broken off It doesn't work for chainsaws - or at least for the way chainsaws cut at the moment...

Yep and I remember being the same when arbing - if the saw cuts it's sharp and if it doesn't then I best sharpen it. Once I sharpen and it still doesn't cut get a new chain... but it does just come back to the basics. I know I can't get a milling chain on a long bar right by eye - not got the technique or the patience. But I can do it with a guide and I know what it should be like. That saw should cut and feel wonderful What's needed with milling is a better guide as taking a long bar and chain off - cleaning and putting a new chain on - re tension - is a longish job in itself. Because big trees = more foreign bodies and debris... and you can't get away with much with milling it all has to be right to work well.

I'd love to come up with a better on the bar solution than the Granberg Grinder - something that could do the depth gauges quickly and easily as well. But the Granberg precision ginder is still the best thing I've come across with the diamond stones you know then that your sharpening is consistent: https://www.chainsawbars.co.uk/product/g1012xt-granberg-precision-grinder-expected-8th-june-available-to-backorder/

I had a good example of this the other day on a log with flint in it. On the second cut the flint dulled one side of the chain - I have it a quick sharpen with a freehand grinder and started cutting. The mill entered the cut fine but then the front started lifting... I didn't want to re sharpen as likely more debris in the tree but even with someone standing on the mill it kept rising. Now if you keep doing this the chain will be pushing hard on one side of the bar.... that side of the bar will wear and the chain will roll even further to that side causing an issue with the bar long term. With milling = issues - 95% it will be the chain - the other 5% will be the bar wear [caused by the chain]. We have a tough time explaining this to folks that have used a saw for 10 years plus, they have just sharpened and yet same issues occur so it must be the mill - it is always down to that there chain...

...no one knows so far within the bounds of this thread

Yep that's what I have gathered is there will be a sea of 5g aerials everywhere - but again whether it poses a risk or not no one knows!

Last chance to get the 40% pre order offer - will be changing this to 30% when I have time today!

Above made me chuckle! I was wondering if anyone knows about all these rays and frequencies that could actually shed a little scientific light on things? I'm getting some more crystals in regardless...

Good work Steve

Yeh but I don't know how true any of it is! We need someone who knows about this stuff... but it's probably something to be aware about.

Seems 5G will be here soon - and similar to smart meters there seems a lot of people saying that it will be harmful for health. Just read through this article and it seems well though out and referenced. Anyone got any thoughts on the subject? As with most things seems hard to pin down facts from conspiracy... certainly technology and waves of all different kinds seem to be getting more intrusive. But when you look at the old cigarette ads... it's hard to know what to believe! https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/5g_risk_to_health Emma Gomez left an annotation (13 October 2018) I would like this request to be sent also to Duncan Selbie and all others within public health England who made the decision to go ahead with 5G and a list of their names for the public to be able to recognise those who are to be responsible for the decision. IF you would please also share the research you have used about the safety levels for humans. How did those who conducted the research come to the conclusion about what is a safe and an unsafe level of radio waves over long term continuous use. How do I opt out from being bombarded by these dangerous frequencies? The following is taken from this website. https://eluxemagazine.com/magazine/dange... The idea behind 5G is to use untapped bandwidth of the extremely high-frequency millimeter wave (MMW), between 30GHz and 300GHz, in addition to some lower and mid-range frequencies. High-frequency MMWs travel a short distance. Furthermore, they don’t travel well through buildings and tend to be absorbed by rain and plants, leading to signal interference. Thus, the necessary infrastructure would require many smaller, barely noticable cell towers situated closer together, with more input and output ports than there are on the much larger, easier to see 4G towers. This would likely result in wireless antennas every few feet, on every lamp post and utility pole in your neighbourhood. Here are some numbers to put things into perspective: as of 2015, there were 308,000 wireless antennas on cell towers and buildings. That’s double the 2002 number. Yet 5G would require exponentially more, smaller ones, placed much closer together, with each emitting bursts of radiofrequency radiation (RFR)–granted, at levels much lower than that of today’s 4G cell towers–that will be much harder to avoid because these towers will be ubiquitous. If we could see the RFR, it would look like a smog that’s everywhere, all the time. First, it’s important to know that in 2011, the World Health Organization’s International Agency for Research on Cancer classified RFR as a potential 2B carcinogen and specified that the use of mobile phones could lead to specific forms of brain tumors. Many studies have associated low-level RFR exposure with a litany of health effects, including: DNA single and double-strand breaks (which leads to cancer) oxidative damage (which leads to tissue deterioration and premature ageing) disruption of cell metabolism increased blood-brain barrier permeability melatonin reduction (leading to insomnia and increasing cancer risks) disruption of brain glucose metabolism generation of stress proteins (leading to myriad diseases) As mentioned, the new 5G technology utilizes higher-frequency MMW bands, which give off the same dose of radiation as airport scanners. The effects of this radiation on public health have yet to undergo the rigours of long-term testing. Adoption of 5G will mean more signals carrying more energy through the high-frequency spectrum, with more transmitters located closer to people’s homes and workplaces–basically a lot more (and more potent) RFR flying around us. It’s no wonder that apprehension exists over potential risks, to both human and environmental health. Perhaps the strongest concern involves adverse effects of MMWs on human skin. This letter https://ehtrust.org/letter-fcc-dr-yael-s... to the Federal Communications Commission, from Dr Yael Stein of Jerusalem’s Hebrew University, outlines the main points. Over ninety percent of microwave radiation is absorbed by the epidermis and dermis layers, so human skin basically acts as an absorbing sponge for microwave radiation. Disquieting as this may sound, it’s generally considered acceptable so long as the violating wavelengths are greater than the skin layer’s dimensions. But MMW’s violate this condition. Furthermore, the sweat ducts in the skin’s upper layer act like helical antennas, which are specialized antennas constructed specifically to respond to electromagnetic fields. With millions of sweat ducts, and 5G’s increased RFR needs, it stands to reason that our bodies will become far more conductive to this radiation. The full ramifications of this fact are presently unclear, especially for more vulnerable members of the public (e.g., babies, pregnant women, the elderly), but this technology Furthermore, MMWs may cause our pain receptors to flare up in recognition of the waves as damaging stimuli. Consider that the US Department of Defense already uses a crowd-dispersal method called the Active Denial System, in which MMWs are directed at crowds to make their skin feel like it’s burning, and also has the ability to basically microwave populations to death from afar with this technology if they choose to do so. And the telecommunications industry wants to fill our atmosphere with MMWs? Other distressing research Unfortunately, innocent animals have already been the victims of testing to see MMW’s effects on living cells. Extrapolating the results from animal testing to humans isn’t straightforward, but the results nonetheless raise some serious red flags. Perhaps most significantly, a US National Toxicology Program study noted that male rats exposed to RFR for nine hours a day over two years developed rare forms of tumours in the brain and heart, and rats of both sexes developed DNA damage. The researchers noted that the increased risk to the rats was relatively small; but if these findings translate to humans, the widespread increase in cellphone use could have a significant impact on populations. Thus the NTP study served to renew the debate about the potential harmful effects of cellphones on human health. Not only that, it caused a significant shift in the American Cancer Society’s understanding of radiation and cancer, and sparked them to state that our ignorance of RFR’s impact on human health could be compared to our previous obliviousness to the connection between smoking and lung cancer. Other animal research worldwide illustrates how microwave radiation in general and MMW’s in particular can damage the eyes and immune system, cell growth rate, even bacterial resistance. An experiment at the Medical Research Institute of Kanazawa Medical University showed that 60GHz millimeter-wave antennas produce thermal injuries in rabbit eyes, with thermal effects reaching below the eye’s surface. This study, meanwhile, suggests low-level MMW’s caused lens opacity–a precursor to cataracts–in rats’ eyes. A Chinese study demonstrated that eight hours’ of microwave radiation damaged rabbits’ lens epithelial cells. A Pakistani study concluded that exposure to mobile phone EMF prevented chicken embryo retinal cells from properly differentiating. This Russian study revealed that exposing healthy mice to low-intensity, extremely high-frequency electromagnetic radiation severely compromised their immune systems. And a 2016 Armenian study concluded that low-intensity MMW’s not only depressed the growth of E. coli and other bacteria, but also changed certain properties and activity levels of the cells. The same Armenian study noted that MMW interaction with bacteria could lead to antibiotic resistance–distressing news, considering immunity to bacteria is already compromised due to the overuse of antibiotics. Again, if these findings translate to humans, our rampant cellphone use would likely cause profound, adverse health effects; an increase in MMW’s as more bandwidth is introduced could further complicate the matter. But what’s also important to note here is that 5G technologies will not only have a profound impact on human health, but on the health of all living organisms it touches, including plants, as we shall see. 5G harms the planet, too Equally disturbing, 5G technology puts environmental health at risk in a number of ways. First, MMWs may pose a serious threat to plant health. This 2010 study showed that the leaves of aspen seedlings exposed to RFR exhibited symptoms of necrosis, while another Armenian study suggested low-intensity MMW’s cause “peroxidase isoenzyme spectrum changes”–basically a stress response that damages cells–in wheat shoots. Plant irradiation is bad news for the planet’s flora, but it’s bad news for us, too: it could contaminate our food supply. Second, the 5G infrastructure would pose a threat to our planet’s atmosphere. Network implementation will require the deployment of many, short-lifespan satellites via suborbital rockets propelled by hydrocarbon rocket engines. According to this 2010 California study, launching too many of these babies will vomit enough black carbon into the atmosphere to pollute global atmospheric conditions, affecting distribution of ozone and temperature. Worse, solid-state rocket exhaust contains chlorine, an ozone-destroying chemical. How can any government seriously concerned about climate change allow for this? Third, 5G will potentially threaten natural ecosystems. According to several reports over the last two decades–some of which are summarized here–low-level, non-ionizing microwave radiation affects bird and bee health. It drives birds from their nests and causes plume deterioration, locomotion problems, reduced survivorship and death. And bee populations suffer from reduced egg-laying abilities of queen bees and smaller colony sizes. More evidence of ecosystem disruption comes from this 2012 meta-study, which indicates that 593 of 919 research studies suggest that RFR adversely affects plants, animals and humans. It bears repeating: 5G is bad news for all living creatures and the planet we share. Beware the propaganda deluge Despite being fully aware of all these unsettling results, threats and concerns, the US corporatocracy continues to maintain a gung-ho attitude about 5G. The Mobile Now Act was passed in 2016, and many US states have since gone ahead with 5G plans. The telecom industry’s biggest players have basically co-opted government powers to enforce their 5G agenda, with companies like AT&T and Qualcomm having begun live testing. And despite research showing serious threats to humans and the planet, the FCC Chairman announced intentions to open low-, mid- and high-frequency spectrums, without even mentioning a single word about the dangers. They’re going to sell this to us as ‘faster browsing speeds’ – but the truth is, you’ll barely even notice the difference. They’re going to call anyone who protests against 5G a ‘Luddite’ or ‘technophobe’. But why such a willingness to embrace another new technology – even though it carries serious risks and brings spurious benefits? Why not heed the lessons learned from killer products like asbestos, tobacco and leaded gasoline? Because a tiny percentage of people will gain an awful lot of money, is one reason. And because companies and governments will be given unprecedented amounts of power over civilians is the other. All isn’t doom and gloom, though. At least one US politician is maintaining some level-headedness: in October, California Governor Jerry Brown stopped legislation that would have allowed the telecom industry to inundate the state with mini-towers. Brown’s bold actions have permitted localities a say in where and how many cell towers are placed. The state of Hawaii has stopped 5G and smart meters by collectively threatening to charge every person who installed such meters with liability for any health problems residents may suffer. Moreover, 180 scientists have started a petition to warn of 5G potential health effects. Maybe these actions will afford more time for additional studies and data collection. Just as importantly, maybe they’ll cause other politicians and figureheads to reflect on what they’ve been pushing for. Take action In the meantime, we as individuals must do everything we can to protect ourselves. Here’s what you can do: Understand EMFs and their behaviours Use EMF metres to measure, mark and avoid hotspots Whenever possible, limit your exposure: use an anti-radiation headset or speaker mode while talking on a cellphone. Refuse to use 5G phones and devices. Full stop. And discourage those you know from doing so. Refuse to buy anything ‘smart’ – ‘smart’ appliances, ‘smart’ heaters, etc. Carry shungite crystals to protect from radiation Buy an EMF protective shield for all your electronic devices No matter what, do NOT get a smart meter – these put high levels of 5G radiation right in your home Join the growing numbers of dissenters. Get active with them here. Do as the Hawaiians have done and threaten smart meter and 5G tech installers with liability. You can learn how to do that here. Spread the word! Please share this article with everyone you know Even if the policy drivers and governments aren’t doing their due diligence, at least we can say we’re doing ours.