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Depends who you do it to, I saw it done to one guy and he didn't react how they thought he would, it didn't end well for the prankster.

Work around electricity is a fraction of the industry so it doesn't make a good example, and the haulage industry has ADR tanker drivers (also a fraction of the industry), how do you fancy the roads with a tanker full of petrol ten feet from the back of your head?

I did a double take at that, I think that's the overtime and yes that's poor money

Indeed, we get used to autocorrect, but it has interpreted some of my typos leading to embarrassing Freudianism creeping into my typing, even my clunky old laptop would have caught that one ######end derail#####

Its like a bank but you need fat fingers and an ipad:laugh1:

Its easy to come un stuck on bigger jobs. I didn't mean you were preaching, only that a prophet preaches and profit puts money in the bamk:laugh1:

Go on then, last thing I put in there got me a bolocking for repeating something someone had said:laugh1:

Turn over is vanity profit is sanity, take the small trees

Depends who you are preaching to:laugh1:

They often need a little training, plants green side up please.

Mr Bolam bringing the gospel.

The old bluffer up to his tricks again? Just ignore the replacement part. If and when they ask about it, ask them what legislation they are going to use to enforce it

The thing I would take away from that is that they didn't want to go down that route, the authorities made them do it, they are bona fide ag contractors moving farm stuff from field to farm and they can't use the exemption. As an industry arboriculture has nothing to do with agriculture we are a service industry, if arb can use the agriculture exemption where will it stop, the milk tanker, the grain delivery, stobarts delivering frozen carrots to tesco? They all have a tenuous claim at best but thier claim is still better than anything we can come up with.

Plenty of ag contractors up and down the A1 doing just that all the time

So with all that experience and three generations behind you why this thread? Get yourself down to Whithams without delay lad:lol:

Epic old school grunt, got rid of mine earlier this year, just thinking about it has my fingers tingling:laugh1: That one looks like its had a third rate paint job

Early in this thread I told you what happened to me, first hand experience and I think that puts me in a club of one in his thread. I was stopped moving round timber with a tractor and trailer by VOSA, I explained the circumstances to the man at the roadside and he followed protocol and reported me, I was hauled before the traffic commissioner and had to explain myself. I managed to talk my way out of penalties but if I hadn't known the rules he would have had me for no O licence, my class 1 kept me away from a potential no driving licence charge. That was a decade ago and back then they were a lot less sure of themselves, I don't think I would get away with it today. I realise this isn't the news you were looking for but no need to get upset just because of that. Have a look at the question you asked or rather the answer you were looking for, it would start "Hi mate this is how I break the law....." And you are surprised there are no replies? but if blaming me makes you feel better that's fine by me. There are plenty of people out there that are winging it and you think they will grass themselves on a public forum? Hell one guy even lied through his teeth to avoid copping to it FFS Like I said, crack on and take your chances, plan your routes to avoid fixed checkpoints and hope you don't meet a mobile one or Plod doesn't look to hard if you have a bump. Your reduced operating costs compared to your competitors should allow you to save a contingency fund for when the authorities do catch up with you or you could use it to get compliant and play a straight game.

How much do you not understand the issues here? HMCE there remit is fuels and red you definitely can not do but it is nothing to do with operating the vehicle. VOSA, well the V stands for Vehicle and they (with plod) are your main issue here, if you think they are wrong in the letter of the law then by all means challenge it.

Youth is wasted on the young

The problem there comes when you do both work legitimate under the exemption and works not covered by that. They will then follow the law as it is written and you are going home on the bus. As an example a MEWP can carry such goods as are required for its use so the highways chap with a box full of light bulbs is fine, you can also argue that a tree outfit can tow a chipper with the MEWP but if you use it for moving waste from the site it becomes general haulage and has to follow those rules.

I don't think I would like to go back there either:laugh1:

Amazing that we managed for so long with nothing more than a length of three strand and a three knot system. Would you gear junkies cope if that was all you could get your hands on tomorrow morning?

Oddly enough not The base vehicle is a dodge 50, later Renault The only unique part that boughtons had made was the front axle and they are scarce, so scarce that when the army needed some they robbed some of unreleased vehicles which whithams then sold. Things like the door internals are still available from Dodge in the USA from memory the rear diff is a quaife limited slip job.

The firewootastic in me was thinking, bag that one and leave some scabby old poplar for the bugs and beasties.

No thanks I have plenty at the moment but if you pay me to cut the tree down you can sell the timber to get your money back (well a bit of it anyway)