Making the news today....

[Johnsond]

6 hours ago, sime42 said:

So you do believe Climate Change to be a thing? I'm still not clear.

 

Trying to distil that down to a coherent point;

I think you're trying to say that we ought to be using our own UK manufactured renewable infrastructure, rather than Chinese. Correct?

I completely agree. Our government don't seem to believe in that sentiment though unfortunately, they're unable to make those long term strategic decisions, for whatever reasons. We really should have nationalised critical infrastructure, but that ship has long since sailed as far as energy supply goes. France and China already own half of ours anyway. So what's the difference if some or ideally all of that is from renewable sources? I fear you may be missing the bigger point again.🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

 

What are these "punitive actions to the average citizen in the short term" that you speak of?

 

 

 

Here we go with the missing the point thing again the point that only you ever seem to get . 42 you are as blind with this as you were with covid. Punitive actions !!!! Seriously you don’t think charging or fining people to drive their car into a newly proclaimed clean air zone is not punitive, forcing people to upgrade even if they can’t afford it banning the sale of new diesel and petrol cars etc etc the so called climate crisis is the latest thing to be hijacked by the media and as with covid the profits will be huge, and just as they did with covid the gullible will swallow it without question. 
listen you are obviously happy to have Chinese supplied renewables, Russian coal and oil from anywhere but here all in the name of the environment, crack on buy your electric car and terrify yourself like you did previously. Common sense just doesn’t seem to be that common nowadays in politics or in the population. 
By the way 42 you want to throw in a Moonbat wisecrack 🤷‍♂️no probs at all, you have been proven to be utterly wrong and massively gullible/naive during the covid farce whereas the likes of myself and a few others on here  have ultimately been proven to have been correct ina lot of what we argued about. The difference between you  and some of the other covid zealots is that they have chosen to maybe let it go with the realisation they might well have called it wrong. You on the other hand still try to be a smart arse using the moonbat comment or making out only you get the point etc etc

Edited July 20, 2023 by Johnsond

[Mick Dempsey]

Nigel Farage gets an apology. 

[Johnsond]

On 18/07/2023 at 21:27, PeteB said:

Forage and his bank woes? He is just a customer.....if the bank don't like him and cancel his account, he shouldn't moan, just get on with life and stop trying to get sympathy for being a racist bigot!

 

Banks cannot judge whether they want his business surely? 

Nigel Farage receives apology from Coutts after bank account row

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Coutts has apologised to Nigel Farage after his bank account was closed.

Looks like the racist bigot was telling the truth again. 

[Stubby]

Just stop oil protesters surrounded by orange T shirt clad people with " just stop pissing everyone off " written on their T shirts 🙂

[Johnsond]

1 hour ago, Stubby said:

Just stop oil protesters surrounded by orange T shirt clad people with " just stop pissing everyone off " written on their T shirts 🙂

That id like to see, slowly slowly just bundle them off the road and onto the pavement at all times maintaining that apathetic gormless look they seem to have perfected. 

[topchippyles]

22 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

That id like to see, slowly slowly just bundle them off the road and onto the pavement at all times maintaining that apathetic gormless look they seem to have perfected. 

Bundle them all on a boat and send them all over to france they can apply for asylum over there. 

Edited July 20, 2023 by topchippyles

[ArronTreeServices]

I 100% don't see why they think that anyone will back their cause when all they do is cause problems and irritate the general public, mostly around events that have nothing to do with oil.

[Mark Bolam]

[Steven P]

2 hours ago, ArronTreeServices said:

I 100% don't see why they think that anyone will back their cause when all they do is cause problems and irritate the general public, mostly around events that have nothing to do with oil.

 

My gran on her way to the Co-op for a bottle of milk is going to change nothing no matter how many times they stand in front of her car. In fact one day she might get out for a natter. In fact, maybe she should - they wouldn't be back, once they can politely get their excuses in to leave. It is a fair point, the people they are annoying are not going to change the world no matter how many times you shut down a road (cars idling away in the background).

 

However it must be a fair sized organisation to get that many locals able to walk to their protest sites, no cars, buses, trains used..... (and of course, no computers with their gas generation used to organise things either)

[daveatdave]

13 hours ago, Steven P said:

 

Likewise, in the city do you take bin bags for the birds that hit windows, are killed and weakened from car and power station exhausts, from cats.... point here is that whatever we do we affect our environment (t'internet reckons that domestic cats kill a factor of 100 times more birds than windmills). We have a choice and it is one we will have to make very soon - turn down our electricity use, go green with energy generation, or go back to Russia to get our gas supplies till that runs out. Can't see London being very happy if we tell them to turn off the electricity at the weekends.

that's not including all the sea birds that are getting killed by them at sea as well. With all the electric cars that are coming on stream we cannot produce enough electric ourselves that is why we import it from France and Norway then when they shut the coal power stations they started using gas.

the population in this country is rising at a huge rate with all the immigration both legal and illegal and all have to be provided for