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[difflock]

Bit like France after the 2nd WW, where "everyone" was in the Resistence.

And "nobody" ever collaborated!

Dr. House had it sussed, "everybody lies".

Well, except me.

[GarethM]

Rishi's backbone is akin to one of those inflatable waving signs. Only upright when full of air and his own self importance.

 

I would have used a snake analogy but the only image that came to mind was a snake dancing to someone else's tune.

Edited August 25, 2022 by GarethM

[sime42]

25 minutes ago, GarethM said:

Rishi's backbone is akin to one of those inflatable waving signs. Only upright when full of air and his own self importance.

 

I would have used a snake analogy but the only image that came to mind was a snake dancing to someone else's tune.

Brilliant analogy that.

Even more applicable to the current PM. (Actually, have we even had one for the last couple of months?)

 

 

[GarethM]

Boris has for a long while been a bit like diet coke, devoid of calories and full of chemicals.

 

Which as a small C conservative does kinda pain me knowing how low all parties have fallen.

Edited August 25, 2022 by GarethM

[Woodworks]

I am bewildered by this extreme narrative that tries to make out covid was not a serious threat to public health and that restrictions were not needed especially at the beginning pre vaccines. 

 

Regardless of the knock on affects covid was killing around 1% of those infected and if left unchecked it would and nearly did overwhelmed our NHS. If the NHS was overwhelmed that percentage death rate would have been vastly higher as far more than 1% of us needed needed oxygen.  We couldn't leave it to run unless we wanted a massacre of our elderly and vulnerable but not elusively this group.

 

In the first lockdown I remember going for what was nearly a peaceful walk as there was so little motor activity but with an almost permeant sound of distant ambulance sirens!

 

It was horrible and pretending it didn't happen is absurd. 

 

 

 

I saw some nonsense  headline the other day trying to make out our current high death rate is due to covid restriction from what now would be 18 months ago. For a grown up look into the actual causes of our current high death rates see here you can read it in the FT but behind paywall but the author shared it. 

 

[GarethM]

And at the same time Sweden used common sense and locked away the elderly and at risk.

 

We can all argue until all the cows have come home about this but we can't change what's happened. Can we all agree Mr Ferguson needs taking outside and publicly shaming for his inverted commas prediction?

[coppice cutter]

You'd probably have to drag him off whatever blonde bint he's currently shagging first no doubt.

[GarethM]

If it's anything like the one in lockdown you'll have her husband 1st in the queue.

 

Plus with his counting skills, he can barely count the notches on the bedpost 

Edited August 25, 2022 by GarethM

[trigger_andy]

1 hour ago, Woodworks said:

I am bewildered by this extreme narrative that tries to make out covid was not a serious threat to public health and that restrictions were not needed especially at the beginning pre vaccines. 

 

Regardless of the knock on affects covid was killing around 1% of those infected and if left unchecked it would and nearly did overwhelmed our NHS. If the NHS was overwhelmed that percentage death rate would have been vastly higher as far more than 1% of us needed needed oxygen.  We couldn't leave it to run unless we wanted a massacre of our elderly and vulnerable but not elusively this group.

 

In the first lockdown I remember going for what was nearly a peaceful walk as there was so little motor activity but with an almost permeant sound of distant ambulance sirens!

 

It was horrible and pretending it didn't happen is absurd. 

 

 

 

I saw some nonsense  headline the other day trying to make out our current high death rate is due to covid restriction from what now would be 18 months ago. For a grown up look into the actual causes of our current high death rates see here you can read it in the FT but behind paywall but the author shared it. 

 

I’m bewildered that you still believe the lies. The lies that even the government are distancing themselves from. The lies that somehow never made it across the pond to Scandinavia. 
 

You’ve had your pants well and truly pulled down and your brain will not allow you to process it. 
 

If only there was a term for that…..

[Woodworks]

13 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

I’m bewildered that you still believe the lies. The lies that even the government are distancing themselves from. The lies that somehow never made it across the pond to Scandinavia. 
 

You’ve had your pants well and truly pulled down and your brain will not allow you to process it. 
 

If only there was a term for that…..

We will clearly never see this the same Andy but what are the 'lies' as you see it?

 

Did we not have excess deaths in early 2020?

Were the ambulances running around empty? 

Are all the doctors and nurses in on the lie (my wife was one of them) dealing with covid patients turning blue)? 

Can multiple governments who in normal times are incapable of organising a piss up in brewery somehow organise a massive multi county conspiracy to cripple their economies?

 

As for Sunak's comments both him and Truss will clearly say anything they think might sway the Conservative members. Truth and facts have little to do with what comes out of their mouths.

 

Agreed other countries have managed this much better. Some through luck of geography (most less densely populated nations), some through good communication of the facts (Sweden according to a friend out there). some through early actions ie lockdowns and other mitigations.