Making the news today....

[eggsarascal]

14 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

This is a man who continually advocates higher taxes and votes for the party that will tax the working man more whilst at the same time systematically goes out of his way to avoid paying any tax at all and then gloats about it. 

 

As I say, rank hypocrisy. 

I do love it. Rishi and Boris have raised tax more in two years than Brown and Blair managed in 10. 

 

Yes, it is avoidance, perfectly legal.

 

 

[trigger_andy]

22 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

I do love it. Rishi and Boris have raised tax more in two years than Brown and Blair managed in 10. 

 

Yes, it is avoidance, perfectly legal.

 

 

The fact remains that Mark is a man that advocates and supports higher taxes for the working man to support the lazy and feckless whilst gloating that he does not pay tax. Its disgusting. 

 

 

[eggsarascal]

8 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

The fact remains that Mark is a man that advocates and supports higher taxes for the working man to support the lazy and feckless whilst gloating that he does not pay tax. Its disgusting. 

 

 

Trig, when you talk sense I listen to ya, when you talk nonsense I refuse to reply to you.

 

Correct me If I'm wrong, I've never heard Mark say he pays no tax, I've heard him many times say he pays little tax and to achieve that he uses a good accountant. As you said, its avoidance, not evasion.

 

The fact indeed does stand, we are being taxed more by a government Mark wouldn't vote for.

[trigger_andy]

3 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

Trig, when you talk sense I listen to ya, when you talk nonsense I refuse to reply to you.

 

Correct me If I'm wrong, I've never heard Mark say he pays no tax, I've heard him many times say he pays little tax and to achieve that he uses a good accountant. As you said, its avoidance, not evasion.

 

The fact indeed does stand, we are being taxed more by a government Mark wouldn't vote for.

Eggs, you speak shit all the time though. So if you think Im talking nonsense then just piss off now then? I never started this convo but Im ending it now. 

 

See ya.

Edited August 18, 2022 by trigger_andy

[trigger_andy]

Is anyone apart from the Usual Suspects here actually surprised at this? 

 

Effects of lockdown could be causing more deaths than Covid | Daily Mail Online

WWW.DAILYMAIL.CO.UK

---

The Office for National Statistics' figures for excess deaths revealed that about 1,000 more people than usual are dying each week from illnesses and conditions other than Covid.

 

[difflock]

I too am alarmed at the various proposals to bail out the improvident, to be paid for by those "with money", I am even more alarmed at the various "dont pay your energy bill" proponents, because "we" will still pay for our energy use, and pay(a share of) their unpaid bills as well, never mind us already paying for all the stolen electricty.

I do realize that those on the lowest incomes, from benefits monies or meagre wages are and will be hardest hit by rising energy costs, but to double back to another theme in the posts above, why do these breast beating, heart rending news articles NEVER list the actual income and expenditure of these "destitute" families. 

Marcus

 

[GarethM]

There are plenty of things that could be done starting with the green taxes on fuel.

 

If those Gretta types want to pay more, I'm sure the energy companies would offer them a tariff to make them feel all fuzzy inside.

 

I still can't understand how a bill goes from 1500>4500. Wholesale gas price has gone up but not that much, as a country we need to return to burning waste especially plastics. 

[Woodworks]

1 hour ago, GarethM said:

There are plenty of things that could be done starting with the green taxes on fuel.

 

If those Gretta types want to pay more, I'm sure the energy companies would offer them a tariff to make them feel all fuzzy inside.

 

I still can't understand how a bill goes from 1500>4500. Wholesale gas price has gone up but not that much, as a country we need to return to burning waste especially plastics. 

So let me get this right.

 

To alleviate the massive price rises we are experiencing you want to slow the switch to renewables when this whole crisis is being caused by our dependance on fossil fuel? 

 

 

 

Less than 8% of our current  bills are green costs  anyway

 

According to the regulator Ofgem, an average direct debit energy customer under the default price cap announced on 1 April would pay £1,971 per year, of which £153 would be environmental and social obligation costs. 

 

[GarethM]

Sounds like you've swallowed the huge renewable lies, if you want to supplement the grid with solar, wind etc that's to be encouraged but you need base load to actually allow that.

 

Without sufficient base load and storage your renewable energy delusions are not even possible. You need storage for atleast 24 hours not minutes, batteries are not the answer, hydro maybe but they turn wind off when it blows top hard.

 

You need to be using that power however hard it blows!.

Edited August 19, 2022 by GarethM

[trigger_andy]

12 minutes ago, Woodworks said:

this whole crisis is being caused by our dependance on fossil fuel? 

 

This 'crisis' has nothing to do with dependence on fossil fuels. Its caused in its entirety of pushing and pandering to a green agenda with nothing in place to replace the fossil fuels we currently require. Its the short sightedness (that Trump warned about) that has resulted in Europe paying lip service to Green Energy yet letting Russia do all their dirty work thats come back to bite us all in the Ass. 

 

This has resulted in Operators in the North Sea both in the UK but also Norway, Denmark and the Netherlands being given an almost free reign fast track the development of Fields that would otherwise have not gone ahead or would have faced more red tape. 

 

The company I work for has been given the contract for 185 new Wells for AkerBP in the Norwegian Sector alone. We have so much work coming up we're no longer looking for new work all the way up to 2025 as we need to be able to supply the contracts we now have in place. Its the new Oil Boom for us. 

 

There is no crisis other than Oil Companies using a disruption in the flow of O&G that we already used and required from Russia to hike their prices up. Brent Crude is not even $100 a barrel ffs.  We're been punished for strangling our own ability to be self sustaining all in the name of being 'Green' and so many are blinded to this.