Making the news today....

[trigger_andy]

Just now, Toad said:

I do wonder if some of Yaxley-Lennon's supporters will be less pleased that they aren't funding an ideological fight that they subscribe to, but have been paying for him to enjoy large volumes of cocaine and hookers?

Well he certainly deserves to have a bit of fun now and again

 

Id throw him £20 if he said he needed a hooker and blow fund and Ive never even considered sending him money previously, only if he sends me a titty pic of course

[Doug Tait]

18 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

Well he certainly deserves to have a bit of fun now and again

 

Id throw him £20 if he said he needed a hooker and blow fund and Ive never even considered sending him money previously, only if he sends me a titty pic of course

Been a long, hot week Andy. I'd appreciate a donation to my fund please, will definitely send you a pic in return

[sime42]

Sure, you do what you want and let others do what they want - tart!

Got it, thanks tart! I thought there were a few or more superfluous words in the extended, director's cut.

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

1 hour ago, Toad said:

I do wonder if some of Yaxley-Lennon's supporters will be less pleased that they aren't funding an ideological fight that they subscribe to, but have been paying for him to enjoy large volumes of cocaine and hookers?

And that differs to anyone in the political sphere how exactly?

 

Im sure they all do it out of altruism and public service 😂

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

21 minutes ago, sime42 said:

 

 

Got it, thanks tart! I thought there were a few or more superfluous words in the extended, director's cut.

 

Never knowingly under sold 😂

[Mark J]

Does this seem credible: 

[openspaceman]

6 hours ago, Mark J said:

Does this seem credible: 

I've always thought it a terrible job, sat at the wheel for hours getting little exercise, not great pay either (although being on gritter standby seems a good number).  My guess would be there's a high turnover of new drivers and there are no tests being done for new drivers to replace them as well as above.

[sime42]

Does this seem credible: 

It's entirely credible.
I signed a petition against the government trying to change the law on lorry driver hours a few days ago. The number of dodgy things they're trying to do to rectify Brexit, Covid and other fckups is very worrying. Worse thing is we don't even know the extent of it, who knows how many things they get away with because they never even make the light of day.


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"""""""38 Degrees Logo ​
Dear s,

Last week, as a way of solving potential food shortages this summer, the UK Government eased strict HGV driving rules which now means HGV drivers can increase their driving hours. [1] The temporary measure could result in an increase of more driving errors and accidents. It’s potentially a very dangerous gamble to take.

Drivers, Unions and Industry experts speaking out are even stating that it ”wouldn’t make any difference” to the problem it’s trying to solve. [2] The Government has warned that driver safety must not be compromised, but changing rules which were put in place to keep drivers safe, could do just that. [3]

Dangerous laws for HGV drivers could mean dangerous roads for everyone. There are thousands of us reading this email. A huge petition signed by members of the public could persuade Transport Secretary, Grant Shapps, to scrap the new driving hours and help make HGV drivers and fellow passengers safer on UK roads.

So can you sign the petition now to keep our roads safe?


SIGN THE PETITION


The current driver shortage is being blamed on several things, including many not returning from abroad because of the Coronavirus crisis, Brexit, and pandemic disruption to the qualification process. [4] Industry leaders have said there could be gaps on supermarket shelves this summer, as supply chains collapse - but there must be safer solutions than increasing working hours of drivers.

38 Degrees is an online community of millions and millions of people who have shown time and time again that when we come together, we’re unstoppable. Individually it might feel impossible to change laws like this, but when we act together there’s no reason we can’t get the Government to reverse the extension of HGV drivers working hours.

So will you sign the petition today? It only takes 30 seconds.

SIGN THE PETITION

Thank you for everything you do,

David, Ashley, Robin and the 38 Degrees team

P.S - If you are a HGV driver and you would be interested in speaking to a member of the 38 Degrees team about this campaign, please tick the box on the petition page:

Grant Shapps: Keep our roads safe

38D.GS

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On 12th July, as a way of solving potential food shortages this summer, the UK Government eased strict HGV driving rules which now means HGV drivers can increase their driving hours. The temporary...

Notes:
[1]The Guardian: Working hours rules to be relaxed to ease UK lorry driver shortage
[2]BBC News: Backlash against longer hours to ease lorry driver shortage
[3] See note 2
[4] Sky News: HGV driver shortage: 'Extended hours for 'exhausted hauliers won't fix delivery crisis', industry body warns. """""""

[Khriss]

I have my fleet of heavy lifting drones at the  ready, dont panic ( does need twinned drones fr family pack of andrex at the mo 😣)  k

[Johnsond]

1 hour ago, sime42 said:

It's entirely credible.
I signed a petition against the government trying to change the law on lorry driver hours a few days ago. The number of dodgy things they're trying to do to rectify Brexit, Covid and other fckups is very worrying. Worse thing is we don't even know the extent of it, who knows how many things they get away with because they never even make the light of day.



"""""""38 Degrees Logo
Dear s,

Last week, as a way of solving potential food shortages this summer, the UK Government eased strict HGV driving rules which now means HGV drivers can increase their driving hours. [1] The temporary measure could result in an increase of more driving errors and accidents. It’s potentially a very dangerous gamble to take.

Drivers, Unions and Industry experts speaking out are even stating that it ”wouldn’t make any difference” to the problem it’s trying to solve. [2] The Government has warned that driver safety must not be compromised, but changing rules which were put in place to keep drivers safe, could do just that. [3]

Dangerous laws for HGV drivers could mean dangerous roads for everyone. There are thousands of us reading this email. A huge petition signed by members of the public could persuade Transport Secretary, Grant Shapps, to scrap the new driving hours and help make HGV drivers and fellow passengers safer on UK roads.

So can you sign the petition now to keep our roads safe?


SIGN THE PETITION


The current driver shortage is being blamed on several things, including many not returning from abroad because of the Coronavirus crisis, Brexit, and pandemic disruption to the qualification process. [4] Industry leaders have said there could be gaps on supermarket shelves this summer, as supply chains collapse - but there must be safer solutions than increasing working hours of drivers.

38 Degrees is an online community of millions and millions of people who have shown time and time again that when we come together, we’re unstoppable. Individually it might feel impossible to change laws like this, but when we act together there’s no reason we can’t get the Government to reverse the extension of HGV drivers working hours.

So will you sign the petition today? It only takes 30 seconds.

SIGN THE PETITION

Thank you for everything you do,

David, Ashley, Robin and the 38 Degrees team

P.S - If you are a HGV driver and you would be interested in speaking to a member of the 38 Degrees team about this campaign, please tick the box on the petition page:

Grant Shapps: Keep our roads safe

38D.GS

---

On 12th July, as a way of solving potential food shortages this summer, the...

 

Notes:
[1]The Guardian: Working hours rules to be relaxed to ease UK lorry driver shortage
[2]BBC News: Backlash against longer hours to ease lorry driver shortage
[3] See note 2
[4] Sky News: HGV driver shortage: 'Extended hours for 'exhausted hauliers won't fix delivery crisis', industry body warns. """""""




 

 

Listened to a article on R4 a few weeks ago regards this and whilst people will try to politicise it, without fail the drivers spoken to complained about poor rates of pay especially from a few well known operators and use of agencies by the supermarkets. The EU drivers are split into well paid professional drivers from Holland, France,Germany etc and others, the others are what the operators seem to be missing. This was the views  the UK drivers were giving. The answer rather than run to the EU to fill gaps is to invest and train our own people, all the companies moaning  no doubt miss the cheap Labour pool that the EU offered. It always pisses me off that companies want ready made trained people regardless of where ever  they come from yet won’t invest in training our own young, short term greed that long term benefits no one. Training and investment in the young right now  should be an absolute overriding priority including skills such as HGV driving. 
HGV driver shortage is nothing new hence reducing the age limit from21 to 18 a few years back. it’s just MSM dramatising something and encouraging those who want to beat the political drum. 

Edited July 25, 2021 by Johnsond