Break In - Edinburgh

[peds]

Have you got trackers installed Mick? Just on big kit, or down to little saws too?

 

It's probably the sort of thing that some people have to be bitten by before they take action... get it all nicked first, then invest in a countermeasure. Like dashcams...

[Mick Dempsey]

32 minutes ago, peds said:

Have you got trackers installed Mick? Just on big kit, or down to little saws too?

 

It's probably the sort of thing that some people have to be bitten by before they take action... get it all nicked first, then invest in a countermeasure. Like dashcams...

No, so there’s that bit of double standards on my part!

 

Here my plant is the other side of the wall in the barn so it’s unlikely they’d disappear overnight (though not impossible I know)

Rural theft is much rarer here.

 

I did have a tracked chipper nicked in the UK on a trailer in 2004, just before we moved here, before trackers were so widespread, though I did recover it.

 

I feel sure I’d invest if I still had a remote yard in the UK.

Edited 16 hours ago by Mick Dempsey

[peds]

Didn't want to put you on the spot there, but I  kind of assumed! 

 

You are right though, it's another step to make the theft more difficult,  but another expense...

[Doug Tait]

We do have trackers on some kit but they didn't touch any of that, although it seems that was luck (for them) rather than judgement.

[Mike Hill]

2 hours ago, Mick Dempsey said:

I think individuals could take responsibility to have trackers fitted to their own machines.

 

I think command detonation would go much further honestly .

[JLA1990]

This stuff is not going on to fb or eBay it’s going straight into a curtain side/container and leaving the country. Organised crime gangs are not selling off a saw at a time - it goes to a buyer elsewhere in Europe wholesale. It’s clearly becoming easy pickings as little to no police presence twinned with little to no border checks means easy cash! Yards are getting done for everything - opportunists would take saws etc not chippers, diggers, trucks. Lack of police funding and reliance on insurance companies has created a perfect storm for the thieves. 

[Pete Mctree]

Poor security on the machines and built in obsolescence all work for the manufacturers. Piss poor border controls mean that they disappear sharpish too.

 

Without a fundamental change in policy towards theft and border security nothing is going to change.

[MattyF]

It’s been like this for years so it’s hardly a new thing that the police won’t or can’t do anything about it , I’ve been cleaned out and had chippers stolen and trackers activated within an hour and still never seen any of it come back… they either knew where it went and where too scared or not bothered, personally I think it’s more the first. 

[monkeybusiness]

12 hours ago, Mark Bolam said:

I don’t think any plant manufacturers do enough Paul.

They could and should do a lot more.

For a manufacturer it would be a very cheap and minor addition to include telematics within a machine control unit - even if the data was only accessible to the manufacturer themselves (to be released to relevant parties in the event of theft) it would make shifting stolen kit on much harder. 
It doesn’t help with the sale of replacement machines following theft though, so won’t ever gain traction. Even though it would be a very powerful USP as far as I’m concerned (as a buyer). 

[Mr. Squirrel]

10 hours ago, Mick Dempsey said:

I think individuals could take responsibility to have trackers fitted to their own machines.

 

tbf after reading some posts on here earlier in the year I got a tracker from gpsbob and… what a waste of money. Far from the 3 month battery life or whatever they advertise, they last about a week.

 

 Doug - sorry to hear that. I’ll keep an eye out north of the forth. There was a fella indulging in a bit of robbing here in Fife a few years back, someone spotted their saw on eBay and found the lad. I believe after a brief confrontation in a pub he scuttled back down south. Hope you’ve similar closure in time.