Red diesel

[chopperpete]

Looks like red diesel is available for boats, but others who run a boat business can claim money back for other fuel from the Government..

 

Notice 263: marine voyages - relief from fuel duty - GOV.UK

WWW.GOV.UK

---

 

 

[spuddog0507]

4 hours ago, chopperpete said:

Looks like red diesel is available for boats, but others who run a boat business can claim money back for other fuel from the Government..

 

Notice 263: marine voyages - relief from fuel duty - GOV.UK

WWW.GOV.UK

---

 

 

There will be all sorts of companies and operations that will still be allowed to use red diesel, i think some people are making a mountain out of a mole hill with this subject and its just like any other forum is you believe what every one says your head will be up your arse, I cant see the QE2 being run on white diesel ,

[Stubby]

6 minutes ago, spuddog0507 said:

 I cant see the QE2 being run on white diesel ,

Imagine trying to park that up at the supermarket  for court 🙂

[Lowestoft Firewood]

51 minutes ago, spuddog0507 said:

I cant see the QE2 being run on white diesel ,

They'll have fun impounding it I reckon 

[Justme]

On 27/04/2021 at 17:10, spuddog0507 said:

I cant see the QE2 being run on white diesel ,

They run on a heavier oil than diesel.

 

HFO or heavy fuel oil

[aspenarb]

On 19/04/2021 at 20:46, swinny said:

Thought diesel is still fine for agg, forestry and horticulture

 

Some blurb on it below Chris.

 

The government announced at Budget 2020 that it will remove the entitlement to use red diesel for many sectors from April 2022. This will require many industries to use fuel that’s taxed at the standard rate for white diesel and therefore encourages businesses to use alternative fuels to help reduce their environmental impact.

At Budget 2021, the government added more industries to the list that will continue to be permitted to use red diesel. Therefore, from April 2022, the entitlement to use red diesel and rebated fuels will be restricted to the following purposes:

 

Commercial boating industry, including fishing and inland water freight industries and passenger ferries

Non-commercial power generation, such as hospitals and off-the-grid households

Agriculture, forestry, horticulture and fish farming

Passenger, freight and maintenance vehicles that run on rail tracks

Non-commercial heating, such as off-the-grid homes, places of worships and townhalls

Travelling funfairs and circuses

Amateur sports clubs, including golf courses

Fuel duty will apply to biodiesel, biofuels and fuel substitutes used in heating, with the rebated duty rate applied to non-commercial heating. Penalties for breaking restrictions on the use of rebated fuels will also change, allowing HMRC to seize vehicles and other machinery in certain circumstances.

[swinny]

16 minutes ago, aspenarb said:

Some blurb on it below Chris.

 

The government announced at Budget 2020 that it will remove the entitlement to use red diesel for many sectors from April 2022. This will require many industries to use fuel that’s taxed at the standard rate for white diesel and therefore encourages businesses to use alternative fuels to help reduce their environmental impact.

At Budget 2021, the government added more industries to the list that will continue to be permitted to use red diesel. Therefore, from April 2022, the entitlement to use red diesel and rebated fuels will be restricted to the following purposes:

 

Commercial boating industry, including fishing and inland water freight industries and passenger ferries

Non-commercial power generation, such as hospitals and off-the-grid households

Agriculture, forestry, horticulture and fish farming

Passenger, freight and maintenance vehicles that run on rail tracks

Non-commercial heating, such as off-the-grid homes, places of worships and townhalls

Travelling funfairs and circuses

Amateur sports clubs, including golf courses

Fuel duty will apply to biodiesel, biofuels and fuel substitutes used in heating, with the rebated duty rate applied to non-commercial heating. Penalties for breaking restrictions on the use of rebated fuels will also change, allowing HMRC to seize vehicles and other machinery in certain circumstances.

Yup so whats people winging about? 

 

Tree's are covered under horticulture. The tree's in agg land etc Storm in a teacup from these pussys on here

Edited April 29, 2021 by swinny

[spuddog0507]

1 hour ago, Justme said:

They run on a heavier oil than diesel.

 

HFO or heavy fuel oil

Quite aware of that thanks,

[Treewolf]

16 hours ago, aspenarb said:

Some blurb on it below Chris.

 

The government announced at Budget 2020 that it will remove the entitlement to use red diesel for many sectors from April 2022. This will require many industries to use fuel that’s taxed at the standard rate for white diesel and therefore encourages businesses to use alternative fuels to help reduce their environmental impact.

At Budget 2021, the government added more industries to the list that will continue to be permitted to use red diesel. Therefore, from April 2022, the entitlement to use red diesel and rebated fuels will be restricted to the following purposes:

 

Commercial boating industry, including fishing and inland water freight industries and passenger ferries

Non-commercial power generation, such as hospitals and off-the-grid households

Agriculture, forestry, horticulture and fish farming

Passenger, freight and maintenance vehicles that run on rail tracks

Non-commercial heating, such as off-the-grid homes, places of worships and townhalls

Travelling funfairs and circuses

Amateur sports clubs, including golf courses

Fuel duty will apply to biodiesel, biofuels and fuel substitutes used in heating, with the rebated duty rate applied to non-commercial heating. Penalties for breaking restrictions on the use of rebated fuels will also change, allowing HMRC to seize vehicles and other machinery in certain circumstances.

One of the things I find interesting about this, which I haven't seen receiving much comment, is that originally the tax was applied to road fuel. If you had a vehicle that never went on the road (and wasn't capable of going on the road, i.e., unregistered and not taxed) it could run on red. Now it would appear that this is no longer the case. Therefore if you own something like an unregistered vintage tractor that isn't used for ag, forestry, or horticulture but just as a hobby or for low-loadering to shows etc., it appears it must run on white.

[openspaceman]

30 minutes ago, Treewolf said:

Therefore if you own something like an unregistered vintage tractor that isn't used for ag, forestry, or horticulture but just as a hobby or for low-loadering to shows etc., it appears it must run on white.

Yes that's my take on it, as soon as it propels something not within the exemptions it must be on DERV.  There apears to be an exemption for stationary use as long as it's not commercial. So currently I am thinking if you are running a wood chipper in a domestic dwelling for horticultural purposes it can use red, if you do the same in a commercial situation, like a pub car park or development site, it must be DERV but if it's in hospital grounds?