Red diesel

[twistedhicap]

On 16/04/2021 at 04:58, Commando said:

I guess farmers are gonna have to be a bit more selective about what they plant and how much fuel will be needed to bring that crop to harvest. UK maize is an environmentally damaging crop, I believe most of it going to animal feed/silage.
It would be nice to see all cattle being raised on grass again!

Most Maize is grown now for Base feedstocks into the "green" bio digester plants as they need stable base feedstocks even though these plants could run on waste products etc for stable and consistent outputs the favour maize.

I grew up on farms etc and yes maize can be one of the most land damaging crops due to the harvest season being so wet usually and the run off and erosion from bare land over winter due to not being able to work it when wet ! 

 

A good portion of Fodder or sugar beet is also now going into the "green" energy market as feedstocks for the Bio digesters or to produce Ethanol for the fuel markets! 

[chopperpete]

Looks like red diesel is available for boats, but others who run a boat business can claim money back for other fuel from the Government..

 

Notice 263: marine voyages - relief from fuel duty - GOV.UK

WWW.GOV.UK

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[spuddog0507]

4 hours ago, chopperpete said:

Looks like red diesel is available for boats, but others who run a boat business can claim money back for other fuel from the Government..

 

Notice 263: marine voyages - relief from fuel duty - GOV.UK

WWW.GOV.UK

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There will be all sorts of companies and operations that will still be allowed to use red diesel, i think some people are making a mountain out of a mole hill with this subject and its just like any other forum is you believe what every one says your head will be up your arse, I cant see the QE2 being run on white diesel ,

[Stubby]

6 minutes ago, spuddog0507 said:

 I cant see the QE2 being run on white diesel ,

Imagine trying to park that up at the supermarket  for court 🙂

[Lowestoft Firewood]

51 minutes ago, spuddog0507 said:

I cant see the QE2 being run on white diesel ,

They'll have fun impounding it I reckon 

[Justme]

On 27/04/2021 at 17:10, spuddog0507 said:

I cant see the QE2 being run on white diesel ,

They run on a heavier oil than diesel.

 

HFO or heavy fuel oil

[aspenarb]

On 19/04/2021 at 20:46, swinny said:

Thought diesel is still fine for agg, forestry and horticulture

 

Some blurb on it below Chris.

 

The government announced at Budget 2020 that it will remove the entitlement to use red diesel for many sectors from April 2022. This will require many industries to use fuel that’s taxed at the standard rate for white diesel and therefore encourages businesses to use alternative fuels to help reduce their environmental impact.

At Budget 2021, the government added more industries to the list that will continue to be permitted to use red diesel. Therefore, from April 2022, the entitlement to use red diesel and rebated fuels will be restricted to the following purposes:

 

Commercial boating industry, including fishing and inland water freight industries and passenger ferries

Non-commercial power generation, such as hospitals and off-the-grid households

Agriculture, forestry, horticulture and fish farming

Passenger, freight and maintenance vehicles that run on rail tracks

Non-commercial heating, such as off-the-grid homes, places of worships and townhalls

Travelling funfairs and circuses

Amateur sports clubs, including golf courses

Fuel duty will apply to biodiesel, biofuels and fuel substitutes used in heating, with the rebated duty rate applied to non-commercial heating. Penalties for breaking restrictions on the use of rebated fuels will also change, allowing HMRC to seize vehicles and other machinery in certain circumstances.

[swinny]

16 minutes ago, aspenarb said:

Some blurb on it below Chris.

 

The government announced at Budget 2020 that it will remove the entitlement to use red diesel for many sectors from April 2022. This will require many industries to use fuel that’s taxed at the standard rate for white diesel and therefore encourages businesses to use alternative fuels to help reduce their environmental impact.

At Budget 2021, the government added more industries to the list that will continue to be permitted to use red diesel. Therefore, from April 2022, the entitlement to use red diesel and rebated fuels will be restricted to the following purposes:

 

Commercial boating industry, including fishing and inland water freight industries and passenger ferries

Non-commercial power generation, such as hospitals and off-the-grid households

Agriculture, forestry, horticulture and fish farming

Passenger, freight and maintenance vehicles that run on rail tracks

Non-commercial heating, such as off-the-grid homes, places of worships and townhalls

Travelling funfairs and circuses

Amateur sports clubs, including golf courses

Fuel duty will apply to biodiesel, biofuels and fuel substitutes used in heating, with the rebated duty rate applied to non-commercial heating. Penalties for breaking restrictions on the use of rebated fuels will also change, allowing HMRC to seize vehicles and other machinery in certain circumstances.

Yup so whats people winging about? 

 

Tree's are covered under horticulture. The tree's in agg land etc Storm in a teacup from these pussys on here

Edited April 29, 2021 by swinny

[spuddog0507]

1 hour ago, Justme said:

They run on a heavier oil than diesel.

 

HFO or heavy fuel oil

Quite aware of that thanks,

[Treewolf]

16 hours ago, aspenarb said:

Some blurb on it below Chris.

 

The government announced at Budget 2020 that it will remove the entitlement to use red diesel for many sectors from April 2022. This will require many industries to use fuel that’s taxed at the standard rate for white diesel and therefore encourages businesses to use alternative fuels to help reduce their environmental impact.

At Budget 2021, the government added more industries to the list that will continue to be permitted to use red diesel. Therefore, from April 2022, the entitlement to use red diesel and rebated fuels will be restricted to the following purposes:

 

Commercial boating industry, including fishing and inland water freight industries and passenger ferries

Non-commercial power generation, such as hospitals and off-the-grid households

Agriculture, forestry, horticulture and fish farming

Passenger, freight and maintenance vehicles that run on rail tracks

Non-commercial heating, such as off-the-grid homes, places of worships and townhalls

Travelling funfairs and circuses

Amateur sports clubs, including golf courses

Fuel duty will apply to biodiesel, biofuels and fuel substitutes used in heating, with the rebated duty rate applied to non-commercial heating. Penalties for breaking restrictions on the use of rebated fuels will also change, allowing HMRC to seize vehicles and other machinery in certain circumstances.

One of the things I find interesting about this, which I haven't seen receiving much comment, is that originally the tax was applied to road fuel. If you had a vehicle that never went on the road (and wasn't capable of going on the road, i.e., unregistered and not taxed) it could run on red. Now it would appear that this is no longer the case. Therefore if you own something like an unregistered vintage tractor that isn't used for ag, forestry, or horticulture but just as a hobby or for low-loadering to shows etc., it appears it must run on white.