Face coverings

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

1 hour ago, Macpherson said:

Whether this is true or not I don't know, but it's this sort of shit that leaves you with very little faith for anything reported officially, being this blatant it's probably by design, after all the more confusion the greater the impact to public confidence and the greater the damage that's being done.

 

Public Health England's exaggerated death statistics are a scandal that has fed fear

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Woefully misleading figures have only made it harder to tackle the pandemic and to get the country moving again

 

Lies, damn lies and statistics.....

 

Positive test for C19......

 

2 months later.....

 

-  hit by a bus,

 - fell off a moving train,

- eaten by a lion at Whipsnade zoo,  

- run over by a jumbo jet,

 

= C19 death

 

= still only just reaching the figures associated with annual Excess Winter Cold deaths

 

 

[trigger_andy]

9 hours ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

Lies, damn lies and statistics.....

 

Positive test for C19......

 

2 months later.....

 

-  hit by a bus,

 - fell off a moving train,

- eaten by a lion at Whipsnade zoo,  

- run over by a jumbo jet,

 

= C19 death

 

= still only just reaching the figures associated with annual Excess Winter Cold deaths

 

 

But the scared gullible fools lap it up. 

[Billhook]

On 20/07/2020 at 10:16, Khriss said:

Might just point out Eric the Red be dead  ? K

You obviously have not visited York Jorvik Viking Festival!

 

 

[Khriss]

34 minutes ago, Billhook said:

You obviously have not visited York Jorvik Viking Festival!

 

 

Now Mr Bill hook,  your winter of discontent is made glorious summer by this  Son of York ?  I very have as it's where I grew up.  K

Edited July 23, 2020 by Khriss
( that also for Mr@Stubby cos I know he is a fan of Richard the III )

[Billhook]

On 22/07/2020 at 00:08, Macpherson said:

Call me a conspiracist  if you like, but to me the general public have never been so feckin clueless...It's lowest common denominator everything these days, it's not really debatable how this scenario plays out as it's been repeated throughout history and forgotten....cause divisions in society and while they're all arguing the toss.. the real plan goes on in the background.

 

To me it's a long play game that's only become possible with the advent of IT. 

 Before the corrupt could only dream of this kind of influence and power,  but nowadays ?? !!!

 

So to me,  possibly.....  Phase 1, the credit crunch, financial instability...

                                         Phase 2, fear, test to see how much / far folk will accept being pushed / herded..

                                         Phase 3,  anyone got any ideas ?

 

Ok, I'll start, what about 1984 forty years late, that's gonna be one of the ' benefits ' of 5G,  or what about if anyone who won't take a vaccine has to sow a yellow star on their jacket........But none of that really matters as long as you can download netflix faster ?

 

I'll take the normality of 1972 over this shite anyday.

!984 should be compulsory reading in all schools.

We are well on our way there with Newspeak, Thoughtcrime, Big Brother etc. and remember the protagonist  Winston Smith, whose job it was to re-write history and erase all evidence of someone who has been no platformed

It is a great way to control people to use fear.  People scare so easily,  just look at how a supermarket used to be emptied of bread when there was a touch of snow.

The Romans used to keep order by saying that the Carthaginians were about to invade even though there was never any evidence that it was the case.  "You need us to protect you"

[Stere]

PHE may still be an under estimate overall as ONS figures are higher

 

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The most recent excess figures data published by the Office of National Statistics (ONS) show that there have been 53,979 “excess deaths” in England and Wales in 2020 so far – that is, the number of people who have died this year over and above the average for the last five years.

 

Of the deaths registered by July 3, 50,548 of them mentioned Covid-19 on the death certificate, accounting for almost 15% of all deaths registered in 2020. 

Yet the overall number of coronavirus deaths recorded by the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC), which incorporates the PHE statistics that we now know to be affected by this statistical anomaly, currently stands at 45,119 for the entire UK – more than 8,000 lower than the ONS figures that cover just England and Wales. 

Of course, the PHE figures account for only England, while the ONS ones cover both England and Wales. According to Public Health Wales there have been 1,545 Covid-19 deaths in the country recorded since the start of the pandemic. Like Scotland and Northern Ireland, Wales also uses a 28-day cut-off period. 

 

It means that while the PHE figures are obviously problematic – and as the year continues they will become more unreliable due to the increased likelihood of someone dying of an unrelated cause after testing positive for Covid-19 – they don’t mean that we’ve actually had a lower number of deaths than published by the government.

 

[Macpherson]

4 hours ago, Stere said:

PHE may still be an under estimate overall as ONS figures are higher

 

Yeah, the more conflicting the figures, the more the confusion...  it's probably already too late for anyone to work out the truth.

To me the very fact that there have been these massive discrepancies right from the beginning in an issue as serious as this can only point to the fact that it's a deliberate tactic.

 

As someone once said.....

 

" when they own the information, they can bend it all they want "

 

[Jack.P]

Went down the town for some bits earlier and not very comfortable at all  to spend any length of time shopping with a mask on so just got bare esssentials and got out ASAP.shops not as busy like normal  but cafes with dining are full as the rules don’t apply. All a bit daft really.borris missed the boat on this one .should have thought about such rules months ago whilst in the height of the pandemic 

 

 

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

3 hours ago, Jack.P said:

Went down the town for some bits earlier and not very comfortable at all  to spend any length of time shopping with a mask on so just got bare esssentials and got out ASAP.shops not as busy like normal  but cafes with dining are full as the rules don’t apply. All a bit daft really.borris missed the boat on this one .should have thought about such rules months ago whilst in the height of the pandemic 

 

 

There’s a complete lack of credibility associated with this. 
 

Go to Waitrose for groceries and you’re expected to wear a face covering whilst staff don’t, and if you’re having a sit down snack you don’t need to, but if you’re buying a sandwich to take out you do....

 

WHO guidance changed 5 June (but still didn’t make a conclusive case) and dotgov “guidance” didn’t change until 24 Jul. 
 

There’s just no credibility in it and listening to the talking heads trying to justify it is laughable. 
 

This is a balls up! 

[GWYNFIL]

A virus so deadly you have to tested so you know you have it. Sorry if you disagree or have lost a loved one but i will not be partaking in this ! No mask for me. Quite prepared to avoid places who in force this. There has been to many mistakes and misinformation  and lies to be anything other than an agenda agenda 21/30 google it First and last word on the subject.