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3 minutes ago, EdwardC said:

Couldn't agree more.

 

Which is why I'm a non-conformist and only use common names in my reports.

 

Couldn't agree more. Wasn't one of the latest batch of OPM imported on a tree sold as UK grown. I believe the nursery is in trouble. Not the first time the nursery industry have caused big problems, Chalara and Phytophthora austrocedrae are two that spring to mind.

Strictly speaking then Edward you should say " Die Back " not Chalara :001_smile:

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2 hours ago, EdwardC said:

French was also the language of England for centuries. Thank God some people want to take back control. No more critiquing from the 1 November.

Yea Edward, cos they are our sworn enemies since 1066, that other couple of fracas mid 20th century was a bit of rough banter taking our eye off the prize ! K

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17 hours ago, Gary Prentice said:

How is it out of date? There is,  an annual convention/meeting where nomenclaturists  (Is that a made up word?) meet to debate how things should be properly ordered - due to new knowledge etc or where plants/animals/fungi have been previously discovered and named differently. DNA sequencing is only a means of identification, it doesn't change to rules of nomenclature (the ways things are classified). 

 

 

I may be wrong, but I believe that Steve has previously  said that he suffers from Dyslexia, as do a number of other posters, so I'm sure poor punctuation should be forgivable? Apologies, Steve, (@se7enthdevil), if I'm mistaken.

He is a big fella so wouldn't take the proverbial out of him....unless you fancy being beaten with a skittle!

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4 hours ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

Here we go....

 

All aboard the ????

 

Haven’t you got drains to attend to ?

 

I ‘spose the Yemeni asparagus, Hollandaise sauce and French white is out of bounds too....  

No, he's been told where to stick it. He rang with more excuses.

 

God save the Queen.

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6 hours ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

And so me ‘ole egg pudding, Latin nomenclature at the customer facing end of the Arb world is all a bunch of bollox. 

 

It is perpetuated by academic service deliverers who probably think it’s ‘clever’ and might be better filling the syllabus with something more practical and by poncy, shiny ass office jockeys with little greater practical application than proving to themselves how clever they are after learning - parrot fashion - something that very few people, outside of the scientific community, really care about.

 

Even your 5837 survey requires Latin + common tree names (which I generally adhere to since I’m such a habitual conformist) but many don’t as can be seen by a cursory search and examination online. 

 

As to orders from foreign suppliers - well that’s simple to fix and hardly a justification of need - we’d have a lot less pests and diseases if we stopped importing dubious provenance product from Johnny Foreigner and bought British (from Barchams for example!)

 

Rule Britannia,

God save the Queen

Buy British

Speak English!

 

I disagree.

Nomenclature is a great thing for increasing an arborists knowledge of trees and their likely associations with the wider environment.

Irrespective of the 'Johnny foreigner importation of plants' angle, nomencalture serves to inform discussion and the transfer of knowledge of plants and their pests and diseases, on a world-wide basis.


The yanks call plane trees 'Sycamores'. That's different to our sycamore (Acer pseudoplatanus) - Acer tree with leaves that look like a bit like plane leaves.  Plane trees and sycamores are two very different beasts and pose very different management challenges.

Rule Science,
Speak Gaelic.



 

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5 hours ago, Khriss said:

Yr heart is in the right place, Kev.  I drive a British Landrover ( 1966 series 2A) but Latin was actually the language of England for centuries and in place as the written word longer than Modern English which is only about 200 yrs old. K

Bollcocks!

Latin may well have been the written language, but remember French was up there too for written stuff(& early British passports too?), and for fucks sake Anglo Saxon was the spoken one.

P.S.

I always liked the irony of English being the lingua franca for business Worldwide.

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