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An interesting thread by the way, there are no easy answers.

 

I am not sure where the OP is based, but we start apprentices on £10ph because we will offer paid training most apprentices are young guy with few financial commitments.

 

I don't want to make assumptions as I see it a lot and try to focus on how we do things and not how others do it.

I'd like to pay our guys more, the question comes up from time to time from the team unfortunately we can't pay much more than the industry standards as the company couldn't afford to operate as by far our biggest outgoings are wages.

 

 

Simon, regarding this 39 year old, this year we peaked at 25 workers this ebbs and flows as most are self employed to help with work load, some approached us due to adverts we had out, and others I approached. We always ask what they want to earn essentially what they think they are worth rather than what we are happy to pay them, most people understand the value of themselves and what they offer and current rates.

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Should grossing £15ph for climbing trees be "inspiring"?

 

 

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Yes, when you are not really cutting it And most decent subbies who are twice as effective only generally charge about £5 more and they typically supply all their own kit with saws etc.

 

But these threads always get silly, with people suggesting everyone should be on unfeasible money so I didn't expect anymore, take a look on Arb jobs etc and you won't see many climbing positions offering substantially more than that and few matching it.

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Yes, when you are not really cutting it And most decent subbies who are twice as effective only generally charge about £5 more and they typically supply all their own kit with saws etc.

 

But these threads always get silly, with people suggesting everyone should be on unfeasible money so I didn't expect anymore, take a look on Arb jobs etc and you won't see many climbing positions offering substantially more than that and few matching it.

 

 

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Maybe a stupid question but- can you not pay a self employed person what ever they charge per day £50 for example. I know that's lower than the minimum wage but I thought that only applied to PAYE employees.

 

 

 

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Unlikely, as most self employed in this industry are not and shouldn't really be self employed and as such should be treated as employees. However you can pay a bonafide sub contractor whatever is agreed, but they're generally not going to put themselves in that position.

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