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proper grafting the boy should have been in bed but snuck up and was watching over my shoulder thinking I didnt know - let him watch to the end before shoo-ing him off to bed. Am expecting all sorts of questions tomorrow :thumbup1:

fair enough, walk before we run sort of thing - look forward to it

Rob, thought the new flip & rip unit was going to make QS a doddle ?

Always support the boys and girls at the sharp end. As for the politicians who send them out - we need to be a bit more wary about supporting them!

Tend to go with Andy on this. We have played around too much without understanding fully what we are getting into, resulting in man made problems further down the road. Its tempting to jump in and have a go at sorting problems out, but what we should be doing is sitting back, watching and learning. I suspect elms are working the problem as we speak. What we need to accept is that nature's time scale does not necessarily tie in with ours. Nature takes in a much longer view of things where as we rush around wanting everything to happen instantaneously. More haste, less speed Slow brewed, extra matured ya-da ya-da No sure who said it first, but something along the lines of 'the more I learn the less I realise I know. Human beings need to wind their necks in and show some humility and respect Curiosity is a fine attribute, but it is also dangerously tempting!

if it was fire related, surely the browning would be more uniform than indicated in the close up? Our yew that got burned by an overly large bonfire a couple of years ago showed a very uniform brown on the ends of the branches closest to the fire

Fair comment Skyhuck - I misread what was being said as in too much of a rush. However, I do think that a bunch of pale faces dangling on ropes and wielding a lot of machinery is far more alien, potentially upsetting and certainly far less understandable than a falling tree to any spirits who might be inhabiting that very nice patch of earth. If there is danger, then perhaps keep people out temporarily and let the spirits deal with it in their own way?? In this particular situation rather than the wider world that is. All that said and so as not to derail any further, from a purely rigging/arb perspective a very interesting and worth while exercise, particularly as they are sharing it with anyone who is interested via the internet.

yup, interesting project. update would be nice once done

I dont disagree regarding the damage Europeans have done, but aboriginal history goes back a long way before the arrival of said 'whites' and I am sure trees grew and died and fell over during this pre-white period. I am sure aboriginal lore would have factored this into the greater scheme of things a long time ago.

a few too many swear words perhaps :lol:

Could this be the same trend as in every other market where the manufacturers need to improve their margins to feed the beast that is the modern consumer world. They have tried all the other tricks so now they make everything with a 'designed' life span to make money out of spare parts. Mix in cost cutting and lack of quality control in China where everthing is made and nothing lasts its designed life span. In the old days you still had companies run by old hands who knew their industry and took a bit of pride in what they produced and consequently built up a good reputation. These days companies are run by faceless accountants shipped in from other industries and everything is built to a price which these days seems to include a lot of additional costs (including endless bonuses) which then mean the actual cost of producing the item is reduced. et voila Cynical I know

:lol::lol: we are talking about british buildings here - airtightness requirements are causing the UK building industry a few headaches and generating a lot of resistance

As an older parent married to an even older partner (ex career woman turned stay at home mum) I do wonder about the whole question of older/younger parents. No regrets - we met late in life, but only time will tell which is best, if any, as it is a relatively new phenomenon. (Nature does seem to go with younger parenting though??) Only down side I am finding with a very lively 7 year old boy is having to be a bit careful I dont damage something throwing him around and I run out of puff a bit sooner than I'd like I think the biggest problem is the society we have evolved which puts very un-natural pressures on us. If Big J and his missus lived in any one of the majority of countries in the world regarded as 'developing', his wife would quite naturally have been able to combine house building with child care. Training is on the job and local. Who needs sky scrapers and business parks really. Of course other societies have their problems as well, but I think we have veered off on a very self-destructive route since at least the start of the industrial revolution - perhaps a topic for a new thread?

:lol: nice one BB More seriously, surely this should be for the pilot (perhaps the owner??) to determine surely, as it is within his remit/training/experience etc not to mention his interests rather than leave it to the arb department - capable as they may be??

Damned company COE IT system - missed the whole thing well done that man

Not still building it are you TCD?????

military pilots dont count on this one - they're just round the bend mostly Had a few interesting flights with ex african bush war pilots years ago - wasnt feeling to steady for a while after that :lol: Mind you, got of lightly compared to one w....r who mouthed of that he could handle whatever they threw at him - was blubbing after the first wing over (?- not sure if that is the right terminology for a helo) civvi pilots, and potentially an amateur in this situation wont want anything to distract them.

Thanks Paul, that was the point I was trying to make as they land into wind like any aircraft. Any upwind obstacles such as trees and large buildings cause turbulence.

Just wondering about the wisdom of planting trees near a landing site as they cause turbulence. Obviously not going to be as big a factor with a helo as it would with hang/paragliders or light aircraft, but surely going to affect things??

ditto, like the saw horse. As to the OP - dont think it matters how you build it as long as the air can circulate and you can keep the rain off and it wont fall over in a breeze More dictated by the space and materials you have. Various threads on here and other forums with a whole range of wood stores to look at for inspiration.

as per tree_monkey's advice - I get spares via a very helpful tool shop who deal in Makita gear.

nice one, was wondering about wellies myself - just need to find one in a 14 now. Dont suppose many will be left on the list once I put that little factor into the mix. Hey ho, makes for easier decision making I guess.

ditto - cut out a section at ground level been doing a bit round our patch and had one lot up a big holly that was 6" diameter

Silky, if the local outfits are so unprofessional, what about bidding for the jobs yourself. Once your name gets around by word of mouth you're bound to have a steady trickle of jobs to mix in with the travelling arborist commitments. Enough to keep you going till another position comes up at Kew anyhow. Till that happens I cant see you being released from travelling arborist duties - the readership will be up in arms without regular reports.