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Damn, that's spoilt the fun, can't we try Husqvarna settings next OK, I will shut up now

Just had a first, after having a number of complaints from local delivery drivers about poorly packaged parcels smelling of petrol, a customer tried to send a saw to me and got it back for just these reasons. TBH, I am looking at a lighter workload especially during the summer months so the only people that will suffer are...........

Good point GK

Mmmm, er we go again. It is worth checking the piston as per the earlier post. One thin rattling round my head, the "NEW" coil, was it OEM Stihl as the aftermarket ones can be pretty suspect. The other thing is that this coil, was it gapped to the flywheel correctly as I had a MS460 with a similar problem, it would die after 5 minutes and it was traced back to a too large flywheel to coil gap and every time the coil got warm after a bit of use, the spark would fail. You can check the spark by taking an old plug and bending the end electrode out at 45 degrees or breaking it off then seeing if the coil will generate enough of a spark to jump the gap when held against the cylinder. Do check the gap though!!!

I have a C Scope 4Pi for wet sand, it won't discriminate but it doesn't wander all over the shop or detect false positives when on wet sand. The Whites I have is the Classic SL, good thing about it is that some US fella by the name of "Mr Bill" came up with a modification and it works pretty well. I did the Mr.Bill mod!!!!! - Friendly Metal Detecting Forums METALDETECTINGFORUM.COM I did the Mr.Bill mod!!!!! Make It or Fix It Yourself It is a good idea to learn to set up the detector correctly, it is just another tool and the set up of the thresholds, keeping the head flat to the ground and swinging in a good arc are important to making it all come together. Minecraft are pretty pricy and the kit is only as good as the operator.

Factory reset??? It can't be Mtronic from 2011 I take it that it has a normal adjustable carb?

I think my points are knackered, comes with age, just lacking a bit of spark

What were the settings?

"The Stihl Settings".....on an Echo......that's a new one!

Perhaps they both have the same fault? Other than that, try swapping the mufflers over.

Yup, it was a option 1,2 or 3 affair but from this it sounds like the saws clutch or sprocket has failed. I have seen the sprocket come away from the drum before and do this, the sprocket could be that worn, the chain is spinning round it, the clutch shoes or drum may be worn/deformed where they contact each other or the clutch may be faulty to the point the shoes aren't making correct contact with the drum. At least we now know the saw appears to be making power and it is still revving even though the chain isn't spinning. A video may be useful to support the description but at least we are on the way now!

What carb settings have you given it....turns out from fully in?

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This was a No69 Bakalite Grenade - British Hand Grenade No.69, WWI - Inert-Ord.Net WWW.INERT-ORD.NET Been trying to find it in the house, it is somewhere here

A couple of practice grenades, loads of spent bullets, a foot long shell case, some 9mm and .38" bullet cases etc a mostly plastic grenade (unfilled) but saw one in a museum once so must be a bit rare, lots of odd things like that.

Around £3.20 per outing on the beach, it won't make me rich but is good escapism. 30 years ago, I used to detect in a wood that was used as a WW2 ammo dump now that was interesting, found some stuff there!

What are you doing, milling, felling??? I have three detectors as it is something to do on the beach when the old girl is glued to the tennis when we are away. All will detect to around 6-12 inches + depending on the depth of the object, size, metal and the amount of mineralisation around the object. If you are milling, I would say it would work OK and be worth having, felling, it will detect the object around the peripheral of the trunk but not too much over 6" and as long as there is no other metal in the area. Small staples and the like, you will be down to 3-4". My detectors are a Whites modified discriminator for dry sand and a C scope PI for working on wet sand with high mineralisation.

One of the first things that should be done is a compression check as without it, you don't know what you have got and if you change the piston, how will you know if it has improved the situation at all - it will probably reduce the compression until run in. You are probably changing the coil and piston for no reason bar that the may possibly be an issue and most likely changing them with inferior quality aftermarket parts dubious manufacturer. I have had a couple of saws where the bore ended up being very slightly oval, one had the piston fitted round the wrong way round and forget the other but I simply couldn't get the compression up to decent levels so the saws were hard to start and lacked any power. The only solution was to change the cylinder on these. A very unusual fault but it does happen and the compression gauge told me a story! Compression and carb issues must make up a good 85-90% of issues in bad running saws, coils very rarely fail and if they do, you can get total failure, failing after a period of use or just the old limited revs failure where the saw won't rev up properly. I appreciate you are trying but the way you are going, your saw will be like triggers broom, you will have nothing left on the saw that is original and will have spent a fortune on it. Glad you sorted the flooding issue, the metering arm is the usual place to check along with the diaphragm on older machines. When you say the machine lacks power: - 1) Does the chain stop in the cut AND the revs die to the point of stalling 2) Does the chain continue to run at high speed and the saw revs high but doesn't cut 3) Does the saw rev high but the chain speed slows right down in the cut Be careful in answering the above because each has its own set of faults that will cause the symptoms. I can sort of see why you are doing this but despair about where it may end up. Diagnosis is a precise skill, some people have a shotgun approach, I prefer to align myself with the American Sniper, one shot, one part, one fix! I guess it is why people like what I do. PS - If your JB is a rubbery compound, you are fine, if it is grey and rock hard like a grey araldite, you have cocked up.

Just make sure the oil doesn't dry or get sticky when dry. A small issue for the owner but a bloody great big one when it comes to maintenance and cleaning the stuff off. Early bio oils were a mare.

It would change it but it is still more accurate than pretty much any other method bar swapping the flywheel.

So, going back to my bespoke patented method, using another machine, put a flexible spacer stop in through the spark plug hole, push it against the cylinder wall and turn the flywheel clockwise until the spacer is holding the piston off TDC and photograph the flywheel. All you then need to do on your machine is to put a smear of Loctite around the crank taper, slide on your flywheel, using the same spacer on your machine, replace the flywheel giving another 5 degrees of advance and tighten the nut carefully and keep rechecking the position of the flywheel - it can be tapped round with a drift and hammer if necessary and once reasonably tight, use a stop and crank it up then check the position again. This way you will get it right within a degree or two. Any other method is a bit hit or miss.

OK, sounds round about right although I used a screw in piston stop and did the same, rotate one way and then the other then rotating the degree wheel until both degrees clockwise and anticlockwise match and the middle point will logically be TDC. I reckon we are now in the 0.00001% of the UK population that know what the feck we are talking about!!!! Interesting you marked the flywheel and used a static point on the saw, I made a graduated scale and screwed it around the flywheel and used a mark on the flywheel to get the timing. The 066 has a nice gap over the top of the flywheel which worked fine for me. When I did this, I didn't compute that as soon as I rotated the flywheel on the crank, the scale would need redoing and ran 50 degrees for a brief moment - it didn't sound too good. I think for your method, you won't get this issue but it hurts my head working it out, similar method though.

That looks black to me??? Not the bright blue colour I was expecting? How are you measuring the degrees with a strobe? and how did you get TDC? Post a pic as I know how I got there and it wasn't easy! Thinking about it now hurts my head

I don't know but the part is cheap and you could try it. Sounds like you either have chip residue in your oil tank, which is a common one or the oil just isn't suited to these saws. You could try thinning it down with a suitable thinning agent, not sure what as diesel, petrol, spirit defeat the point of using a bio oil. Not seen the Echo strainer but it may be worth trying a Husky or Stihl one if they fit as they are "strainers" rather than "filters" and will stop the larger pieces of chip blocking the pump.

Yup, big shame, been listening to Rush since the mid 70s, some weird lyrics that somehow resonate with life in general but a very distinctive sound. I am getting a bit fed up with seeing some of my childhood stars shedding their mortal coil, especially at an early age. Anyway, here is a very apt Rush song.....enjoy