Joy Yeomans

we fill two at a time off our small processor using loadall pallet forks to hold the two up and open

we've noticed that the first lot of vented bags and vented barrow bags we ordered about 3 -4 years ago were very good quality with plenty of webbing around and good stitching, the last lot we had last year , the quality is v.poor with alot failing already after only 1 load, i complained but this complaint given over the phone and at apf in person fell on deaf ears to the seller - a well known bag supplier who i am not know dealing with.- with only a " well i dont think we have compromised the quality , just used another firm to make the bags" and wont give any refund or discount on other products, when we use them and give alot of money! - wont be using again! joy

Donald and the team deserve full praise indeed, they helped us a year ago win against a very unsavoury character who owed us alot of money. join the FCA they are brilliant and fight for the working man in all areas of forestry. excellent joy

Been getting alot of people asking for us to sell artics of unseasoned timber in lengths to them, now i dont have a problem selling to our regular customers, who i know are bona fide firewood merchants etc, but i really dont want to get into selling to joe public who says my husband has bought a chainsaw to cut up our wood for next year, can you deliver 10t of long lengths of wood and put in a stack for him to "go at" i explained that timber stacks in a domestic setting are dangerous and timber in itself suffers tension and compression forces that for the untrained are extremely dangerous - as is a chainsaw in untrained hands, this has got us out of the delivery for now but how do you lot feel about this, do you deliver and take the money? joy

we have box vans to keep them in, but we promote the coalmen to take theirs through the summer for us as we are lacking in undercover space, and we tend to get that many orders it ends up cutting to order and as soon as they are done they go out luckily, all the best thansk joy

we do about 18,000 nets of softwood logs, but already this year that figure looks to go out the window:thumbup:, we do about 12,000 kindling and we have already past that aswell, with about 5,000 nets of hardwood logs all our nets are mostly wholesale to garages, coalmen and other firewood merchants. and then we do retail loose tipped loads of 2m3 to the domestic market. if you want to place an order and save yourself having to bag and palletise give us a ring:thumbup: joy

i hear what your saying charlie , but both Roh and i read and reread the article inthe CLA mag and it definately reads that heartwoods are promoting woodland owners to sell to CW as that is what the two page article is about, will let you have the mag on friday to view -see you then charlie:thumbup:

sorry mike - got the wrong end of the stick - you really do have to fil the nets really well, and we stack on end , as all the logs are cut to 8" all the nets are very even and consistant as all our nets are machine filled by the fuelwood splitta then we can stack up to 70 on a standard pallet quite easy and stable as all the cut surfaces are flat to stand the next net onto. thank joy

why are heartwoods using CW as their preferred customer to promote to local woodowners this is my biggest fear - as foresters and firewood merchants working in the midlands AND we are CLA Business Members - how come local woodlands asking for impartial advise from heartwoods will be steered towards this national company as against other local companies???? I thought Heartwoods was government funded and impartial - Have i got the wrong end of the stick on this??

youtube "cordstrap " and their is a reminder link video how to fasten, i know we got it wrong a few times, the main thing to remember is keep the buckle in your left hand with the prongs facing away from your thumb and finger (outward) make a loop in the end of the cordstrap and hook over buckle end which is facing away from you, keeping the end of the cordstrap on top of the buckle, next bring the other end of strap round the pallet to join the buckle making a loop when you attach the loop around the other open end of buckle with the tightening machine feed the bottom strap into the leg of the machine and the top strap into the ratchet , disregard the cutter bar, tighten as normal remembering to keep the buckle furthest away from the ratchet machine as tightening will bring the buckle towards it, leave at least 6 inch when cutting off as if needs be you can then re attach the machine to retighten if it has setttled in moving or drying off. it does sound complicated, but there is also a diagram picture of how to do it on the cordstrap refills boxes. and also on their website. thanks joy forgot to add, if your doing it wrong the buckles stretch and you cant reuse them, if your doing it right the buckles keep their shape and tighten down onto the strapping allowing reuse of the strap and buckle once finsihed with, as our garages/customers etc will cut our strap and keep for us to reuse with the pallets again.

as mac says; - follow his wise words:thumbup: just offer what you feel roadside pertonne you want to pay, standing timber nd extraction prices for you have no input in what you want to pay at your end? different sites and terrains mean that standing prices and extraction rates can be wildly different and ballpark figures can soon land the unexperienced in trouble. joy

just ebay "pallet strapping" lots of suppliers on there, we use a local company called Bag Market of Uttoxeter who deliver about 4 cases at a time and some boxes of pallet wrap at a time, im sure if you google packaging manufacturers there will be someone in your area, we also use cordstrap who have reps covering most areas and they will come out and demo and bring you refills etc.

we tried pallet wrap and find it doesnt hold them tight enough especially if we are delivering on artic trailer, we pallet band or cordstrap them for strength then sometimes if weather conditions deteriorate put on pallet covers which holds them all in well, 70 on a pallet is sometimes a bit top heavy we do it but prefer to stack 60s on our pallets now

i think a guy round here did a competition of how many logs in a cubic metre sack and i think the answer was 382 odd, so as people have said 3-400 or depends how long you cut them and if the back has been shaken

well you have all backed up hubbies opinion - i just thought id canvas some arbtalkers opinions thanks joy

i know sweet chestnut has great qualities for outdoor use, high tanin levels etc - is horse chestnut any good for milling, got some large pieces would be easier to mill than chog into bits for firewood, any ideas welcome please, putting a match to it seems a waste. thanks joy

what the heck planet are they one steve:confused1:

our browns has a nice big splitting ram, bit slow cause the ram is so big compared to a barrowed oxdale we tried, which is quick but a small ram struggles on the notty stuff, our large horizontal machine has a double speed ram which runs off pto and has its own oil tank, but if building one i would price in a oil cooler as we have retro fitted one to ours as you wouldnt believe the heat build up after a days splitting and its cheaper than fitting new seals joy

why?? joy

could bring our lucas across if we can get some nice bits out of it - just down the a50 at uttoxeter if thats any good

weve just fabricated/changed an old grain elevator to move sawdust from the bottom of our firewood processor straight into bulk bags, we used the top swivel part off a large corn elevator and took off the electric motor and plumbed in a hydraulic motor to run off the back of the tractor as the pto runs the processor, Rohan instead of welding the motor direct to the elevator fabricated a collar from the motor to the elevator. this could be used for part of your fabricated machine? - i would recommend tractor red derv route, as i know when filling up our little petrol chipper one jerry can a day at about £20 quid lasts no time, but one fil up on red derv at £8 quid lasts a few days processing - just a thought joy.

hi dave , would be interested in buying for our mill if you are thinking of selling as the trunks, pm me if you like with a price if you are interested, thanks joy and roh.

go for the spruce, dries in no time if been through the harvestor/nokka and burns great.

weve just bought a cordstap kit for just that and for retensioning our pallets of logs as they dry out as normal pallet strapping you cant re tension - i find it great ,but it works out at about 7p a metre i think - but its all reusable and retensinoable, so in theory will last along time, the whole package, 2 rolls of cordstrap and buckles comes with roll holder and tools comes in about £280 i think, so initial investment pricey, but it has already come into its own in time not having to re strap things. joy

hi t, if you really cant get hold of any one, Roh can comeup with his fastrac and timber trailer for a day rate if you have alot to move just that short distance - if you need us T. give us a ring joy