RobArb

Believe me my mind is wide open, and i am open to your arguements, i just don't agree with them.... As you state about the one line, maybe on deadwood where the collar has already started to shed the dead branch leaving a stub, avoiding damage to the said collar, but this was a pruning job on live branches. Stubs are untidy, create ooodles of bud growth OR instigate a route of entry for disease/decay/DYSFUNCTION and leaving them is generally a lazy approach IMO. I realise i will never change your mind as its stuck in state of narcissism:001_rolleyes: but from what i've read and the pruning work ive done on MANY different varieties of trees in MANY different surroundings and environments, and also what i've seen from stub leaving work, it is not the best thing for the tree. I well trained arb should be good enough to avoid damaging the BBR without leaving a stub. I do believe you are capable of this (from your bucket at least) but instead choose to do a lazy job and use words to the effect of "revolutionary" and "research" as an excuse Just my tuppence worth:001_tt2:

harsh but funny:sneaky2: for serious misuse of the easy lift, then showing the photos on here promoting exellent health and safety?

its not something i have overly got round to looking at yet (adventitious rooting), but have noticed you speak of them in other threads. How long do you think this sort of system shown here had been growing and how stable are they really? I know and have seen a lot of Fagus do this, especially in the woods near me, is the tree in the photo Castanea sativa? If so it gets me thinking again about relations in Tree families ie in this case Fagaceae, but need to find more cases. Thanks for the heads up:thumbup: PS, is that biege thing the underlay? If so am i presuming david the green stuff is the moss...? I suppose mossy conditions would be ideal for new roots with just a hint of soil???

I designed and still do my own on photoshop:biggrin: I just save them in different formats for their purpose, images and logos for web based operations don't need to be a high a quality pixelation for stuff that'll be printed eg letterheads and flyers Sent from Rob's GalaxySII

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=10&ved=0CE0QFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.treecareindustry.org%2Fpdfs%2FEXPO%2FStandUpForBetterTreeStandards.pdf&ei=AK3MTperMcXNhAeag53YDQ&usg=AFQjCNGWw56xTtC0t6EqsAqMsp9Kkxu7JA&sig2=H4qzQ3xuKt4ih2YL8NmX8Q Where does out say about leaving stubs in your ANSI standards? And approved by Guy (treeseer on here I think)? Sent from Rob's GalaxySII

careful Tom, you can't call someones work appalling just because they don't use a silky, although i prefer to use a silky it is very much possible to do a good job with a top handle saw. Each to their own i say:thumbup:

OK, i'll bite, and play:thumbup:

Thats what i said:lol: So is it D. c. growing on/in another D. c.? Or the same D. c. with weird growth??

Daedaleopsis confragosa on a cherry that was topped and didn't survive, there was loads of it, but whats the weird growths on the pore surface? Sent from Rob's GalaxySII

Haha, now who's being naughty! And I wasn't knocking shigo, think the word I used was revolutionary (at the time). But alas, yes, things move on and at the moment are moving fast IMO. Each bit of progress is the next rung on the ladder:thumbup: and old hats like shigo, were an important part of the footings! (cliched or what!) Sent from Rob's GalaxySII

From what I've read it is becoming more and more looked at from a research point of view, it won't be long before a new model is conceived, and Shigo's, revolutionary at the time model, becomes a bookmark in the history of arboriculture. Sent from Rob's GalaxySII

Yep, seen it and heard it first hand too:thumbup: Sent from Rob's GalaxySII

:lol: Sent from Rob's GalaxySII

Me moan, never:lol: Consider me manned up! Sent from Rob's GalaxySII

Having Duncan as my tutor, I kind of get some of this info first hand and what he is doing at Manchester uni for his PhD as well as teaching us lot is unbelievable and inspirational the amount of work he does... Hopefully a new model can be achieved one day. I have a few papers I want to write but it seems there isn't enough time to do it sometimes:001_rolleyes: As well as my ongoing restoration/retrenchment pruning research and my tree ident database and trying to study for my FdSc and working full time and making sure I spend quality time with my kids, i'll fit this one in somewhere, good job I only need 4 hours sleep a night:lol: Sent from Rob's GalaxySII

The more and more I read, the more I'm convinced. As sloth rightly puts it, simply, trees cope with the injury as soon as it happens, not when its decayed! Would this ever become recognised, or is Shigo's acronym too "worldwidely known" to change? Sent from Rob's GalaxySII

Fox's crunch! Sent from Rob's GalaxySII

After reading a few articles on the CODIT model and the actual process of compartmentalisation, and reading a few opinions of other authors, should we be re-naming the acronym to Compartmentalisation of Dysfunction in Trees as this more precisely describes and illustrates the role of this process... Thoughts and opinions?

Yes an S211 notification, i think

Hope he recovers soon, i knew a young bloke a few years ago, who went into hospital with Colitus and it turned out to be Crohn's. My thoughts are with him and his family

Do SIP or engelbert strauss do hi viz? Sent from Rob's GalaxySII

I make the best effort ALL the time, not just when it suits! The only thing that bugs me from your posts is that you pigeon hole everybody into being incapable just because we don't do it like you:001_rolleyes: Your attitude stinks and until you change it not many people will listen! Sent from Rob's GalaxySII

I'm sure there was also a thread on here somewhere on another death in america when a guys rope (that was for some reason round his neck) got trapped in the chipper and popped his head off! Also a few weeks ago a fellow colleague nearly put my rope into the chipper whilst I was still up the tree, it got to the rollers but not the blades sure to another eagle eyed colleague, I was not best pleased:sneaky2: Sent from Rob's GalaxySII

Nice jobs... Proper:thumbup: Sent from Rob's GalaxySII