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As I said continuing to miss the point. I wouldn't do a refresher for any of the reasons you cited but I bloody well would if the man handing out the contracts said I had to have it.

Continuing with missing the point, the training that people want are the NPTC competencies, most wont pay for anything else. To get an acceptable pass rate you need to teach to the syllabus provided by the awarding body because that's what the learners will be assessed on. Sooooo it would seem you are mistaken, the training providers aren't setting themselves up as an authority, they are providing training to a syllabus provided by others. That's also the system that teashes your kids operates.

So lets assume that's true and the HSE knows that, how are they going to identify those people who fit your criteria and those who fall short? Perhaps they could have an assessment of competencies to decide?

How attached do you recon they ought to be, they oversee the entire world of work in the UK. I doubt that they are that attached to any industry If they got that involed, an I for one am glad they aren't more interested it would cost a fortune, cheaper to do the refresher and not have someone looking ove your shoulder methinks

I think nielson might be another way of spelling chinesedrosschainsaw Neilsen 12 Petrol Chainsaw With Neilsen Bar Chain

You have been economical with your quote there, it says required for use in connection with the machine the operative word is USE, the chipper doesn't use chips it produces them. Its not a point I would want to be arguing with VOSA at the side of the road

That exemption isn't about not about "not used for other purposes", its specifically about the goods carried so if you are carting chip or logs away it wont cover you.

Very civilised, have you got a cup of tea to go with that?

Completely wrong, the reason that this is happening is because the HSE has identified an unacceptable rate of accidents in forestry, in that industry there are a couple of big players dominating the market so all that's needed is to get them to comply and job done. That is the standard "M.O." for the HSE but because of the lack of single major players in arb means that model simply wont work. If it did they would have handled the top handle saw thing that way instead of the much weaker manufacturers accord method. The accident stats for forestry are pretty accurate because of the way the HSE categorised accidents in industry groups and for the most part "have a go's" don't get into the woods in the same way they do in arb. Arb accident stats are polluted because anyone who comes unstuck whilst wielding a chainsaw is designated arb by the HSE. In actual fact many are actually other trades that have had a go and come unstuck. The people in the know at the HSE are aware of this. As far as your inference that the HSE are going to roll this out to the arb sector goes, could you explain how they are going to make that work please?

It was both, the bullock spoke to the bull and the bull answered, although cattle talking is all a bit bovine excrement

Its covered in the method statement 3.1 staff will jog when empty handed 3.2 staff not jogging when empty handed will get the cattle prod

There is a world of difference between grafting and pushing the envelope too far. Taking the jogging back as an example, if the lad trips and falls his ambulance chaser is going to say that it was because of the jogging, which is out of the ordinary, they are going to use industry best practice to demonstrate that your practice is dangerous and unreasonable, various publications like the AA last cut syndrome will be cited and your insurer will be on the line for a proper rodgering.

Or perhaps devolving

I saw Chris De Bergh a few years ago, don't remember a mosh pit though:lol::lol:

Even so no such duty exists, that land owner can tell them to go forth and multiply, most of the ones I know do just that. The red sock brigade can rant all they want.

You sure about that? They aren't allowed to obstruct it but they aren't compelled to keep it clear.

Hows the nose weight?

What he said There are 2 ways of doing kit and plant, you can pay little, buy used and be good with spanners, be prepared to fettle it yourself. Or You can pay more and get (hopefully) the reliability but it will cost you more to buy and finance.

Do you think I put special brew in the saws?

Yes its a cracker, until someone makes a cods of loading it and it runs off down the yard looking for mayhem and chaos

That is the problem

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Ok so they tweaked it a little, recently but I know that by and large, alkylate is alkylate, and I didn't make holes in anything:laugh1:

A mate of mine runs one, he doesn't gripe about the cost and he is from Yorkshire:laugh1:

You are working for your client the provider just has to pull the fuse, ask them what authority they have to demand what they are asking for