Justme
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Never tried or looked at doing it re a vehicle. On a class O1 or O2 trailer anyone can do it.
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True. Loosing track of the point of the thread and just making snap comments re the posts I see. With a 5000kg digger he is def going to be over 7500kg.
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If you get stopped & weighed they will take the front & rear axle weights & add them together. If that is over the MAM (3500kg) then your nicked. That will include the imposed loads from the 5th wheel. You can be within your axle loads but over your total MAM even on a car. They tend to have about 40kg of movable balance weight between front & rear before the load would exceed the axle limits. Max out both axles & your over the MAM.
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If the vehicles MAM is down plated so will the tow capacity / GTW.
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If its an artic the about 1/3 of the wright is applied to the vehicle. That becomes part of its weight so the vehicle needs a MAM that includes it.
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3500kg
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Nose weight counts as the tow vehicles weight.
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I deal with people licence dozens of times per day. I wont remember most of them.
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That weight plate vehicle would need a C1 to drive it. If you passed your car test pre 01-01-97 then you have C1. You are NOT driving it on a car licence contrary to popular belief. To tow with it you need C1E, Pre 01-01-97 you would be limited to a 750kg trailer as you have a 107 restriction. Post 01-01-97 you can have a total GTW of 12000kg IE INC the vehicle. So if fully loaded then the trailer must weigh under 4540kg. You can not use your unlimited BE trailer limit on a C1E vehicle.
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Only IF you claimed it within the correct time scales. Check using the online service if you dont trust me. https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence Your licence allowances were revoked if not claimed. Edit to add. I have sent in an official request for clarification re pre 97 paper licences & the 12000kg limits. I will report back when I get a reply.
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It IS over 3500kg as soon as you add a trailer. Vehicle in this definition INCLUDES the trailer weight. The reason a disco does not need it is due to an exemption for dual purpose vehicles not its weight. The transit might need it dep on exemptions. All BE licences gained on or after 19-1-2013 are limited to 3500kg trailer weight.
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This is ONLY for cat B licences. I'm not quite sure why you think I disagree with you or any of what Rog has put. You seem to be misreading what I am saying.
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The info in that is wrong. There is NO 12000kg limit for a cat BE pre 2013 licence.
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BE IS limited IF it is post 2013. Tacho & O licence use TOTAL weights so a cat B vehicle that is 3500kg WILL need both if towing anything, a 2000kg one will need it IF towing 1501kg. It matters not if you have a pre or post 97 or 2013 licence re Tacho & O licence. If you can find a Cat B vehicle with a high towing capacity then a pre 2013 Cat BE licence holder can drive it. PS VOSA do not exist any more its DVSA. I dont need their opinion I know what the law says.
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Re the 4 tonnes vehicle on a C1E. If its a wagon and trailer then the real weight of the trailer cant be more than the real weight if the vehicle. If its an artic unit different rules apply.
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All this down plate to beat the tacho and O licence wont work. The weights used are the total train weights. As soon as it goes over 3500kg you need them except if an exemption applies.
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Now try reading the bit I was talking about re BE licences. Nit C1E.
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https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-exempt-from-vehicle-tax
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The page you linked to is as per most gov sites a simplified version of the law. This page give fuller details. https://www.gov.uk/driving-licence-categories
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A pre 2013 BE licence is unlimited trailer weight.
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Which exemption are you using? Ps your the one that said it was to get round the tacho and olicence not me.
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If you hold a pre 2013 BE licence then your towing weight is unlimited. However the vehicle must be rated to tow the amount you have it plated at.
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You wont get round any tacho ir o licence rules as they use the total train weight inc trailer.
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You cant drive 12000kg on a pre 97 licence. You are limited to 8250kg. As you will have the 107 restriction. To remove it taking the c1e test after passing the medical, theory and mod tests plus you will need the cpc.
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Not had it for a while but to be honest not been around as much lately as it was peeing me right off.
