Justme
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Only if the relay kit is not LED suitable. When I changed my trailer to LED I had already fitted a suitable kit to my car with the wifes car would not work with them. Till I changed her cars relay I actually wired up standard lights in parallel inside the box trailer so the LED ones would work properly. Basically using the lights as the resistors which are mimicking real lights lol.
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Had you been pre 97 car test then you could tow a real 3250kg behind the real 5000kg MH.
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You should have done:- B then C then CE. Would only have been a little more cost.
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Rep some rules just dont add up. If its just for the motorhome then do C1E
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You would need to either take C1E to be allowed a GTW of 12000kg & the trailer actually cant weigh more than the vehicle using real weights. (I think min arctics are exempt but its not my area so would need to check) OR Take CE & then technically its unlimited GTW for your licence but there are some C&U limits that apply that reduce it. Plus the trailer can weigh more than the vehicle.
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Dont shoot the messenger but its only 750kg.
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Roughly half of all my customers are towing illegally already. ALL of them would have failed the test without taking training. So far I have not had a single customer ready for the test when they came to me.
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I had one customer that took their test on the first day of the new system.
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This law change has now been active for over 20 years. Some of you wont even have been born when it started.
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Lol Its the training that bulks the cost up. Just turning up you would almost certainly fail.
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Which is why the law was changed to stop exactly that situation of people being legal but no training to do it. If you think BE is costly dont expand & need C1 C1E C or CE you will **** your pants. Its the same test just in bigger vehicles.
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Dep on the amount of training thats cheap.
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No the test costs £115 The training costs more.
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That would depend. They would have to weigh you to prove over weight. They only have to add two numbers up to prove no licence. Most people done for no towing licence are not overloaded at all. However if you were then yes I would expect you to get done for that too. Just like they will also do you for no insurance if you do not have the correct licence. The points & fine for both offences will just about make you un insurable for a long time for a sensible cost.
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I bet your customers feel the same about a few little cuts to get a tree down lol. Like most things its knowing where & when to make those cuts. Did you feel the same about getting your car licence or your saw tickets?
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You get weighed & nicked for over loading. Over loading is a different offence to no towing licence.
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They use the combined load index of all the wheels. This would in all cases be more than the plated weight would be.
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SWMBO is always right.........
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What are you smoking / drinking? This thread was about IF you need a towing LICENCE or not. Not if you are over weight.
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That is for C&U not licencing. Licencing is done on plated weights. Can you on your car Cat B licence that allows you to drive up to 3500kg drive an empty 7000kg lorry that has a real weight of 3400kg? No you cant as its the plated or potential weights that are used.
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What? I never mentioned MOT or tractors? You brought it up.
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If you are stopped for being over weight/GTW you MUST be weighed. They can not use the plated weights. However this is about licences. If you are stopped for no trailer towing licence then they do use plated weights.
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It is also worth mentioning that not all vehicles can tow the full 750kg un braked trailer weight. They are limited by C&U to 50% of listed kerb weight, makers also spec the un braked weights too.
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The load on the trailer has no bearing on anything (unless over weight) so it having or not having an MOT is of no interest.
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Correct. Real weights are used for the MAM & GTW. IE my car can tow 1200kg but as I have BE I can borrow a 3500kg trailer & load a box of crisps on it & have a real weight of about 1000kg. That would be legal If I did not have BE it would not be legal as the GTW would total more than 3500kg. Even though the real weight inc car would only be 2800kg. With towing you have to comply with Licencing, C&U plus the makers recommendations. My original post is only covering licencing as that is the area of most confusion. Plus it limits the C&U further any way till you pass BE.
