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Forgot to add doc to the reply. VOSA Operating Licence B+E cat.pdf

I am already on it. My money is on a low grade tech sorting the website made a few short cuts with the coding or checking the specs thinking BE was BE for everyone.

For LICENCE reasons they use PLATED weights. For Construction & Use regs they use real weights. So IF you answer the 3 questions & say no to at least one of them (and are not over loaded) you have nothing to fear re your LICENCE. People mix up Licences, C&U & makers specs / recommendations. All have different rules re how they are enforced.

No towing limit / GTW = no towing allowed at all. Landrovers were rated to 4000kg max with air brakes. Ask landrover. They sold a lot of cars with weight plates with no GTW stamped on them for sale overseas. Some were re imported & can now not tow at all.

That is true however the vehicle would have to be rated for it too. From memory the only ones were landrovers rated to 4000kg. Now all BE is 3500kg as I found out when I looked at my licence using the view a licence service. I am not sure if this is a mistake or a retrospective change.

Wow you want your monies worth. 1, Read attached doc re O licence. Then see if you are hire & reward or not 2, If an item is part of the vehicle it counts for unladen weight so greedy board would be included. If the boxes are the load you would be ok. If they are carrying the load as part of the trailer you are not. 3, I dont know of any exemptions that would apply to plant in this case. 4, Yes, please be clear what is & what is not Hire & Reward. 5, Yes under 3500kg MAM 6, Nope. BE allows a vehicle of 3500kg & a trailer of 3500kg. Not 7000kg in total 7, A C1E might cover it. However again its not quite as easy as the trailer cant weigh more than the vehicle for standard C1E. There is an allowance for mini artics but not sure if it applies to C1E 107 restricted 8250kg IE grandad rights. Or if its just for full 12000kg C1E. Its interesting but I have never had an actual case so never got to the bottom of it. The hire & reward definition for O licence MIGHT not be the one used for tacho. Police see it as any financial gain is hire or reward. Hope that helps This personal advice is worth the price that you paid for it

The trailer would. I thought they were on about the tow vehicle? On the trailer just paint on the MAM you want as long as all the component parts are rated to a higher weight.

That is correct as long as the combine weight you mention is the plated weight not real weights. It is the result you will get from the 3 questions.

Wrong. You keep your B & BE plus a few others. You will loose your other vocational stuff (LGV PSV etc) if you dont do the medicals.

If you give me more details I can try to find out.

Which is exactly the result IF you answer the 3 questions. Dont look at them in isolation ALL 3 answers must be YES to need the test. You can EITHER tow 750kg OR Combined mass of 3500kg.

HGV 2 & 3 can be C. HGV 2 & 3 can be CE restricted. HGV 1 CE full HGV 2 was still ridged just more weight / axles.

True but I cant see any government proposing MOT / driver training / re testing for the humans. Just look at the affront caused in this thread re trailer licences & now you want to retrain / test ALL drivers..........

There was also a period of time after the 97 change that you could apply to keep the full 12000kg & not get the 8250kg if you were actually using it. Just like when they did away with HGV 1 2 & 3 & made CE C C1E & C1. Again not my area but I think this is right. If you had a HGV 2 or 3 you would get a C but could get CE IF you had been towing with your 2 or 3.

You do know that they make some of the most reliable cars available? The benefit is safer cars on the road.

We need checks like in I think Japan. Each year they get harder. Its the reason we get so many grey imports. If I remember right each component is colour coded. Each year you have to change one colour. Then as the years go up its two colours or three colours. Eventually its to costly to keep it.

That pic is right for lorries over 12m But for ones under 12m (IE BE vehicle & trailer) the bay is the same length as the vehicle & trailer. Plus B to Z is now 2 times the length not 3.

This is a real client doing the maneuver for the 4th time during training. https://www.facebook.com/TrailerTrainingCymru/videos/1797129693880662/ I have also attached the exercise area & the legal requirement for rearward view. LGV_PCV_BE_manoeuvring_exercise_area_diagram.pdf

Last question first. IF brakes are fitted they must work on all wheels even if the trailer is under 750kg. Trailer over 750kg MUST have brakes, ones under it can have them if you want. So yes you could derate the trailer to allow it to be towed. However the reality is that you might get pulled if your young employee is pulling what looks to be a heavy trailer with a heavy vehicle.

The age limits for everyone have been reduced. Not to the same age but closer.

During the war you can get an exemption to drive any vehicle for operational needs. She would also have had a C1E licence so 7500kg trucks were ok & back then the restriction did not apply so it was the full 12000kg GTW. Plus fire tenders have exemptions.

I guess a transit can take 1000kg & most 3500kg trailer will take 2-2500kg. So about 3000kg plus payload. 7500kg trucks need C1 & C1E not C or CE.

Your out of date the gearbox procedure has gone Its all auto boxes now for LGV / PSV.

Big list. Most would fail the hitching & unhitching. Some on the reverse but not many of the experienced ones (some tractor drivers cant do it) All would fail on the drive for things like effective obs mirror use anticipation use of speed speeding appropriate speed Lane choice at junctions / roundabouts On a 1 hour assessment (remember the full test is about 90 mins) which includes a bit of talk & some coaching to see if they can fix faults easily once identified (more on that later) most would rack up about 4 serious or dangerous fails. Add in the fails for the hitch & you are looking at 4-7 fails on a 1/2 test. Re identified faults. I am not too worried with where they are but if they can respond to training quickly.

No idea. Is it a lorry or agri registered? What does the weight plate say? Do you have any other licence apart from the B BE C1 C1E D1 D1E? If not and its not agri then I will assume that it is a sub 7500kg Mog so GTW will be limited by your licence to 8250kg. GTW is based on real weights. This could be miles out as I dont have enough facts to work on.