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8 hours ago, Haironyourchest said:

I tried to find it, Mick. I heard the story on the Dan Bongino Show podcast - a guy who I trust completely to not make stuff up. If I trawl through the back episodes maybe I can track down the source, but I really don't want to. If it comes up again I'll make a note of the source material. I remember when I heard it thinking it makes perfect sense, I did self protection training with an ex army guy for a year, and we drilled all sorts of scenarios with the class under stress. It was quite interesting seeing the psychological development of some of the attendees over a period of months - people who entered the class totally passive in the face of aggression gradually became able to trigger themselves to attack, throwing elbows, screaming and spiking their adrenaline in response to (simulated) assault. If this was taught in schools generally, never mind Russia, I'm sure the casualty rate would plummet. The thing is there's really not a lot a person can do against a group of committed attackers/counterattackers. Even if only three or four kids in the class could react together, a single gunman has no chance. But they are trained to "shelter in place".....I dunno. Remember when people freaked out over airline pilots being issued with guns? Mass shooters have distinctly chosen venues for their crime where they know a no-gun policy in in force. Meanwhile there are many documented accounts of citizens with concealed pistols stopping rampaging nutters.

It doesn’t make a lick of sense, nor is it feasible to encourage children to run towards a shooter. They’re not ? 

I looked for it as well, couldn’t find a thing about it, don’t believe it’s true.

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It's not 100% clear from your post Mull.
 
Are you saying that never giving a child choices is a mistake made by many adults, or that it is a mistake to ever let a child have a choice?



I’m afraid you’ll have to work that one out yourself tvi.
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On 22/02/2018 at 20:18, Billhook said:

It seems to be an issue of mental instability rather than weapons.

Where do you stop the ban? Carving knives? Pen knives?  chain saws?  Axes?  Stanley knives?

 Anyone can drive a car or lorry into a crowded area and kill more people than if they had an automatic rifle.

This is true however a car and lorry’s purpose is for travel and negative thoughts may not carry the temptation to use a vehichle in said way. 

 

A gun be it pistol or rifle in intended for one thing and someone with negative thoughts will be more tempted to use one for its intended purpose than say use a car for a purpose it wasn’t intended for. 

 

 

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OK.
 
I think it's reasonably clear that you are suggesting that a child should never be given the option to choose.
 
If this is the case, I think it is an absolutely terrible idea.

Agreed you need to let kids make mistakes when they are still young so you can help them correct any mistakes.
Then they learn from them before they go out on their own and not have any idea of good and bad choices.
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