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[Mark Bolam]

If we could be armed Alex we’d end up like America.

 

I think I would rather get stabbed.

[AHPP]

The right to bear arms in America is far too restricted and it shows in the violence they suffer, attacks in gun free zones etc. I'd rather live in a free country.

[AHPP]

13 minutes ago, Mark Bolam said:

I think I would rather get stabbed.

 

You wouldn't. Picture it. Really picture it.

 

Then watch the first 3 minutes of Law Abiding Citizen. 

Edited November 4 by AHPP

[Johnsond]

23 minutes ago, AHPP said:

I'm not bothered about ifs, coulds and maybes. I'm bothered about rights of individuals and the certainty of not being armed, which is harm. I say certainty because rule one of knife fighting is you're getting cut. Fcking grisly and fcking appalling. I want to be standing twenty feet back with 16 rounds of 9mm on tap. How dare anyone tell me I should have to walk twenty feet forward and get slashed to bits instead.

Not gonna disagree with you on that one. 
Don’t matter how strong or good you are with your hands when a blade is brought into the mix you are in trouble. I had the misfortune many years ago to end up in a scuffle that went tits up fast and ended up getting slashed in the face and forearms with a Stanley knife and a Pils bottle. The result that night was 56 stitches, a broken arm and a fractured skull and scarring that I’ve carried since that day. Reality is numbers and blades will win every time, real life ain’t like the movies, my biggest mistake that night was standing my ground and not legging it. 

[Mesterh]

Well that doesnt sound good at all! Ive know a couple a scallys from the past and the consensus was if someone pulls a knife on you to rob you give them everything, if they pull a knife and dont ask for anything then you better run. If they pull a gun on you then you better give them their drugs stash back.

 

Or, you could learn from the master.

 

 

 

 

[daveatdave]

58 minutes ago, Mesterh said:

Well that doesnt sound good at all! Ive know a couple a scallys from the past and the consensus was if someone pulls a knife on you to rob you give them everything, if they pull a knife and dont ask for anything then you better run. If they pull a gun on you then you better give them their drugs stash back.

 

Or, you could learn from the master.

 

 

he would be bleeding like a pig by the end of that

 

 

[Mark J]

 

[Mike Hill]

8 hours ago, AHPP said:

 

 

Mike,

 

Well that's her risk to take. Nobody's raping Lena Miculek though. Or any number of capable girls. And it's not just the capable ones that can stop baddies. It's the possibility, for a baddy, that he might run into one of the capable ones. It's a deterrent. There are loads of reported foilings of crimes by armed people. There are many, many more times more crimes that never go beyond the dallying planning stages because of the lingering doubt that the victim might fight back properly.

 

I full well know the current legal landscape. It's wrong. Obviously I want men to be able to arm themselves too but women makes the point better. Any man who thinks self-defence tools should be restricted should look at his wife, his mother, his daughter etc and picture how much of a fight they could put up against four men who want to take turns on her cnt with a knife at her windpipe. And then ask himself if he'd rather they had the chance to shoot first.

 

And it very obviously doesn't have to be South Africa. Is that the only place where a person has the right to not suffer violence?

 

That guy on the train could have been carrying and he might not now be in hospital with knife wounds. Why should heroes like him be treated with contempt? If he'd have even had pepper spray, he'd have been caged for defending people.

 

Have you ever been in a knife fight btw? I nearly have. It was fcking terrifying. I've trained unarmed knife defences with rubber knives. That's fcking terrifying enough. Look at a knife. Picture a man coming at you with it. Picture him pushing it between your ribs. Fcking grim. People need guns. I do anyway. Tell me I shouldn't be allowed them and that I should be unarmed against criminals who care about weapons laws as much as they care about other laws (offences against people, property etc).

 

 

Alex its not going to happen.

 

"Darren  would get Sharron" to buy a gun,Darren would nick it/shoot their kid by accident,hire it to the local yardies before it would end up biffed into the Canal. Every street punk would get some infirm person to buy them a shooter and the streets would become far worse,thats already been covered on here.

 

If the guy who bravely defended the people on the train had a gun then maybe it would have ended sooner,or maybe he would have panicked and mag dumped the lot down a packed carriage killing an maiming even more people.Because the more bullets you have,the more you tend to use.

 

Carrying a pistol is a pain,if its easy enough to carry then its small enough to not be very effective/easy to use.If its a full size pistol then you are constantly aware of it and trying all the time to not expose it,I cant imagine having to ride the tube for example with a pistol in my wasteband,holding onto the overhead rail hoping some nutter wasnt going to make a grab for it.

 

 

[Stubby]

Imagine the snarl up at the FAC licensing departments of the various constabularies . I have just renewed mine and she said its a 2-3 month wait . ( cheque made payable to The PCC for Sussex )   not sure what it stands for but I made mine payable to Sussex Police so that was another hold up . Or are you suggesting that Cherie and Tracey could pop down to the local FAD and buy one like you could a Mars bar ?  

Edited November 5 by Stubby

[Mesterh]

8 hours ago, daveatdave said:

 

Watch the full video, not even a scratch on him!