Making the news today....

[Steve Bullman]

pretty pathetic and pointless stuff as usual

[Johnsond]

10 minutes ago, topchippyles said:

Eggs and trig another lovers tiff how many is that now. 🙃

Check those beach babes Les, take your mind off the stresses of life. Outer Hebrides if your wondering. 

Edited January 23, 2023 by Johnsond

[GarethM]

Aren't they sheep that eat seaweed?.

[Johnsond]

1 minute ago, GarethM said:

Aren't they sheep that eat seaweed?.

Not a clue, was passing over a causeway on Sunday gone and I figured worth a pic. Place is heaving with reds too. 

[scbk]

Are the reds shaggable too then?

 

 

 

Asking for a friend.

[GarethM]

Jebus, it sounds like we have a furry!.

[coppice cutter]

Paying the wind turbine operators to stop feeding the grid at times of excessive supply, and now paying householders to stop using the grid at times of excessive demand.

 

Energy saving scheme: National Grid pays people to cut power again due to cold weather

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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Discounts will be offered to people who cut their energy use between 16:30 and 18:00 on Tuesday.

 

When is the penny going to drop and those making the decisions realise that renewable energy generation is simply not compatible with the old national grid model.

 

More importantly, is this the real reason why electricity is now the most expensive form of energy supplied to consumers?

[openspaceman]

2 hours ago, coppice cutter said:

Paying the wind turbine operators to stop feeding the grid at times of excessive supply, and now paying householders to stop using the grid at times of excessive demand.

 

Two faces of the same coin.

 

The electricity companies have "bid" to reduce the demand for the grid at much the same rate as the "peaking" generators would be paid to produce the energy. The electricity companies then pass on some of this "saving" to their customers in order to time shift the demand away from the peak period. This is largely because the wind has died down and by 16:30 solar PV cannot contribute. I am told not having to switch on peaking plant avoids a cost of £3/kWh.

 

As it is a cloudy day I will have to buy some electricity today so I will buy it in early afternoon and not need it from 16:30 to 18:00, or indeed for the rest of the night.

[GarethM]

Plus you have to factor that against the legally binding Co2 reduction for Paris or keyoto, yes I know it's all smoke, mirrors and Bs of the highest order.

 

But it's still a shocking amount of money.

[coppice cutter]

9 minutes ago, openspaceman said:

Two faces of the same coin.

Yes, inefficiency in the generation/distribution equation.

 

It would be nice to see what percentage of the kw/hr cost to the consumer is now paying for this inefficiency as opposed to simply generating the electricity and supplying it.