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[Mesterh]

My old neighbour had a few Rottweilers over the years they were big friendly playful dopes, really well trained and behaved. There was no fookin way I would trust them or turn my back on them though. I could stamp a jack russel into the ground but not a ten stone bag of muscle if it's animal instinct kicked in for some random unknown reason. 

 

Xl bullys, pit bulls etc are breed for one reason.  

[Mark J]

I heard something the other day that I agree with, if your dog causes GBH to someone, then you should be subject to the same jail as someone who used a bat or a knife on them.

[Steve Bullman]

8 hours ago, Mark J said:

I heard something the other day that I agree with, if your dog causes GBH to someone, then you should be subject to the same jail as someone who used a bat or a knife on them.

Agreed. They are charging the dog owner from the attack yesterday with manslaughter by the sounds of it 

[Steven P]

I'd tend to agree with that too. Your dog, your responsibility.

 

We take dogs and want them to live in a human world so we need to teach them how to do that - train them how to, which I think is the responsibility of the owners. Any problems then their owners should be accountable. A dogs natural instinct isn't to be a 4 legged human and if they revert to how they were bred, and attack then there is a good chance that the dog will also be killed - all because their human didn't take the care to teach them how to behave.

 

When I am out and about I see many dogs on and off leads and at the moment would say it is 50-50 whether an off lead dog comes over to me to interfere with my day. A dog jumping on me for attention is playful to some, it is an attack to others. I'd also say that unless the dog has immediate voice recall then they should also be on a lead, particularly in city parks and other areas where children are likely to be playing.

 

But back to the story, we are seeing a lot of young dogs (about 3 years old) that are not trained appropriately or socialised - the lock down dogs, I expect to see a few more reports of dog attacks in the next 3 or 4 years from these dogs. 

 

 

[nepia]

9 hours ago, Mark J said:

I heard something the other day that I agree with, if your dog causes GBH to someone, then you should be subject to the same jail as someone who used a bat or a knife on them.

Down to sentencing; the law allows what you suggest as the offence of GBH doesn't require any assault, merely the causing of said Harm

[eggsarascal]

I’ll bet anyone they don’t get banned by the end of the year as Sunak suggests, perhaps rules that say they must always be muzzled/ on a lease in public, perhaps even nuted (sp) but not completely band.

[Johnsond]

7 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

I’ll bet anyone they don’t get banned by the end of the year as Sunak suggests, perhaps rules that say they must always be muzzled/ on a lease in public, perhaps even nuted (sp) but not completely band.

That was announced a few hrs ago 

[eggsarascal]

1 minute ago, Johnsond said:

That was announced a few hrs ago 

Been out all day, but yes, I’m actually listening to an article about it just now. Something I hadn’t thought about is they aren’t a breed, so how will they define an XL?

 

On a side note my mates widow has one, I’ve only seen it twice once when it was a pup and then a few weeks ago, it’s a big powerful dog but seems ok. When I was round there we were sat in her garden with her grandchildren about, not something I’d be doing with a dog like that, and I’m fairly sure my mate wouldn’t have it if he was still about.

[Steve Bullman]

1 hour ago, eggsarascal said:

a big powerful dog but seems ok

A lot of them can seem ok, till they're not

[Peter 1955]

Couple more spring to mind. We once had to build a fence between a Husky and an Akita! The Husky was soft as anything ( but like big bundle of bounciness ). The Akita not so. We only met the Akita with its female owner ( lovely lady, husband was grand too ). Never a problem at all, but we wouldn't have been prepared to cross her while the dog was there. We went back to fix guttering between the properties, and I'm clattering about with ladders, drills and hammers, not a peep from the house, we decide lady and dog are absent. Later she comes round and tells us the dog has been here all the time. I say it ever made a sound. " Ah yes" she says, " but I wasn't in the house, you see". 

My Dad once had a Rotty cross,Gyp, lovely dog, and when it was young, I had a day with it while he was away, and it always remembered me. He had a few acres of land, and I turned up one morning while he was walking Gyp, off the lead. My Dad saw me, but didn't recognise me at distance. Gyp did though, and when my Dad had clipped the lead on, I called Gyp. You've seen the cartoons, where the lead holder is dragged along, haven't you? If Dad had tripped, he'd have been going across the field nose first. 😂 He wasn't  as amused at the time as I was.