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[kevinjohnsonmbe]

@Johnsond

 

Did you hear about the DWP getting stung for a massive ir35 blunder?

 

The irony - a government department falling foul of government policy!

 

DWP stung with £87.9m in "fruitless" IR35 liabilities - Freelance Informer

WWW.FREELANCEINFORMER.COM

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The Department for Work and Pensions has reported £87.9m in NI liabilities over incorrect IR35 assessments.

 

[Johnsond]

12 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

@Johnsond

 

Did you hear about the DWP getting stung for a massive ir35 blunder?

 

The irony - a government department falling foul of government policy!

 

DWP stung with £87.9m in "fruitless" IR35 liabilities - Freelance Informer

WWW.FREELANCEINFORMER.COM

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The Department for Work and Pensions has reported £87.9m in NI liabilities over incorrect IR35 assessments.

 

Unbelievable but nothing surprises me with Hmrc any more. It’s strange that when it’s public sector we the taxpayers pick up the tab, when it’s private sector as in my case it’s the responsibility of the individual to sort out any shortfall as the directors of the company and agency concerned swan  off after saving millions by avoiding employers NI contributions. 

[Stubby]

1 hour ago, Johnsond said:

Unbelievable but nothing surprises me with Hmrc any more. It’s strange that when it’s public sector we the taxpayers pick up the tab, when it’s private sector as in my case it’s the responsibility of the individual to sort out any shortfall as the directors of the company and agency concerned swan  off after saving millions by avoiding employers NI contributions. 

Kev had a mammoth battle I seem to remember .

[skyhuck]

On 25/07/2021 at 12:00, Big J said:

 

I disagree, for the most part. 

 

The problem has always been there, but has been masked by having access to a European labour force. The problem is that we don't have the staff in the UK. Brexit has exposed this.

Cheap European labour has caused the problem, not masked it.

[Johnsond]

1 hour ago, Stubby said:

Kev had a mammoth battle I seem to remember .

3 years in now, on my 3rd different inspector with a 5 figure accountancy bill never mind the disputed tax figure itself . Meanwhile the agency and company directors/owners whom we worked for on the scheme and tax set up they stipulated are totally in the clear. 

[topchippyles]

2 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

3 years in now, on my 3rd different inspector with a 5 figure accountancy bill never mind the disputed tax figure itself . Meanwhile the agency and company directors/owners whom we worked for on the scheme and tax set up they stipulated are totally in the clear. 

Nightmare position to be in. I got pulled 7 years ago and they went through the lot.

[Big J]

1 hour ago, skyhuck said:

Cheap European labour has caused the problem, not masked it.

 

It's been supply and demand. British employers unwilling to invest in training or wages, it's no wonder the void is filled by cheaper foreign workers. It's coming back to bite them in the ass now though. Catering jobs are being advertised with around 25% higher salaries than 2 years ago. It'll all contribute to the already skyrocketing inflation rate. 

[trigger_andy]

1 minute ago, Big J said:

 

It's been supply and demand. British employers unwilling to invest in training or wages, it's no wonder the void is filled by cheaper foreign workers. It's coming back to bite them in the ass now though. Catering jobs are being advertised with around 25% higher salaries than 2 years ago. It'll all contribute to the already skyrocketing inflation rate. 

Perhaps the lure of cheap foreign labour should never have been allowed to be danged in front of them? Businesses will always look at the bottom line as opposed to following a moral compass. Do you think companies would follow the Minimum wage laws if they where removed? Of course not. Where we not to have have the EU thrust upon on Id suspect we'd not be in the situation we are now. 

 

25% increases in the catering industry is a start, as is seeing trades commanding £250-£300 a day wages. I'll hazard a guess that the buying power of these wages will be akin to what a tradie was on, and what he could buy on his wages before the mass influx of cheap labour, ie a home going back to being 3 x their yearly wage. 

 

Inflation is skyrocketing on a global scale, not just in the UK. 

 

Time to invest in Gold again :D 

[eggsarascal]

9 minutes ago, Big J said:

 

It's been supply and demand. British employers unwilling to invest in training or wages, it's no wonder the void is filled by cheaper foreign workers. It's coming back to bite them in the ass now though. Catering jobs are being advertised with around 25% higher salaries than 2 years ago. It'll all contribute to the already skyrocketing inflation rate. 

25% of 9 quid an hour is no great shakes. It had to happen mind.

[trigger_andy]

Just now, eggsarascal said:

25% of 9 quid an hour is no great shakes. It had to happen mind.

Exactly, its not going to encourage anyone. 

 

The reality is they need to look at what £9 an hour buys someone from Latvia, or Poland and offer the British the same. Im quite sure we'll see an end to folk here being called 'lazy brits'