Woodburner with oven?

[Peasgood]

23 hours ago, scbk said:

Was working for someone today who has a wood burning cooker currently on order, Thornhill, I hadn't heard of the brand before, made in Kent, they look the part anyway

 

 

WOOD BURNING STOVE COOKER - 3 OVEN, CARBON NEUTRAL MKII - Thornhill Range Cookers

THORNHILLRANGECOOKERS.CO.UK

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British made, 3 oven carbon neutral wood fired range cooker.

 

How can they claim it is carbon neutral? Complete and utter bull! 

[Stubby]

On 29/07/2023 at 20:49, Peasgood said:

How can they claim it is carbon neutral? Complete and utter bull! 

Yea . I saw that and got a strong reading on the oxometer .

[slim reaper]

On 26/07/2023 at 10:33, renewablejohn said:

Still have the Esse but will be getting a Lohberger as currently fitting out a granny annex.

I wouldnt hold your breath trying to get one, most of the google hits for stockists have stopped selling them  and the major one never returns calls so Ive given up

[trigger_andy]

On 29/07/2023 at 20:49, Peasgood said:

How can they claim it is carbon neutral? Complete and utter bull! 

I hate the term but thinking outside of the box could they mean that the carbon required to produce the appliance eventually be nullified by burning a carbon neutral product? If the appliance produced 5t of carbon from

conception to delivery and was burning carbon positive fuel such as coal over its expected lifespan and that coal produced an average of 20t of carbon then designing the stove to efficiently burn biofuel ie, a carbon neutral product then over the stoves lifespan it’s effectively a carbon neutral or even a carbon negative product.  
 

Another possibility is the manufacturer has offset the carbon footprint of the appliance to negate the carbon footprint of manufacturing and with the burning of carbon neutral biofuel the carbon footprint will not increase. In this fecked up world that could make it a carbon neutral product. 🤷‍♂️

[Squaredy]

10 hours ago, trigger_andy said:

I hate the term but thinking outside of the box could they mean that the carbon required to produce the appliance eventually be nullified by burning a carbon neutral product? If the appliance produced 5t of carbon from

conception to delivery and was burning carbon positive fuel such as coal over its expected lifespan and that coal produced an average of 20t of carbon then designing the stove to efficiently burn biofuel ie, a carbon neutral product then over the stoves lifespan it’s effectively a carbon neutral or even a carbon negative product.  
 

Another possibility is the manufacturer has offset the carbon footprint of the appliance to negate the carbon footprint of manufacturing and with the burning of carbon neutral biofuel the carbon footprint will not increase. In this fecked up world that could make it a carbon neutral product. 🤷‍♂️

Probably something like that.  I believe formula one motorsport claims to be carbon neutral as well.  I like @Stubby s oxometer line; I might just borrow that, as I have my doubts about F1 being an eco sport…

[Peasgood]

11 hours ago, trigger_andy said:

I hate the term but thinking outside of the box could they mean that the carbon required to produce the appliance eventually be nullified by burning a carbon neutral product? If the appliance produced 5t of carbon from

conception to delivery and was burning carbon positive fuel such as coal over its expected lifespan and that coal produced an average of 20t of carbon then designing the stove to efficiently burn biofuel ie, a carbon neutral product then over the stoves lifespan it’s effectively a carbon neutral or even a carbon negative product.  
 

Another possibility is the manufacturer has offset the carbon footprint of the appliance to negate the carbon footprint of manufacturing and with the burning of carbon neutral biofuel the carbon footprint will not increase. In this fecked up world that could make it a carbon neutral product. 🤷‍♂️

Well if you start off with a 5t  carbon cost and then by using a carbon neutral fuel you keep adding or subtracting lots of nothings into the equation it still make it a 5t cost.

Have to admit your reckoning is pretty much how these people think though, plant a couple of saplings that will be dead within 6 months and it makes flying around the world OK again.

I am sticking with my complete and utter bull point of view with an added dash of absolute bollox on top.

[scbk]

Yes I don't believe in any of this carbon neutral offseting mumbo jumbo.

 

Apparently the guy mr Thornhill is an engineer, and he came up with and patented the T3 clean burning system that is on burley stoves

[sime42]

Carbon offsetting is high on the Ollox scale. Good example is HS2. They're justifying destroying acres of ancient woodland by planting some crappy little saplings. Trees need to be into middle age before they approach optimum carbon absorption rates.

 

 

[daveatdave]

13 hours ago, sime42 said:

Carbon offsetting is high on the Ollox scale. Good example is HS2. They're justifying destroying acres of ancient woodland by planting some crappy little saplings. Trees need to be into middle age before they approach optimum carbon absorption rates.

 

 

i do believe that thousands of them saplings died through lack of water