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Good & bad in all but looking around the farmers I know most of them get huge amounts in subsidies each year at which point they buy a brand new range rover and a couple of shiny tractors.

 

 

This is the case some times no doubt , but you come down my way and see the way of life some farmers live not through chosing it either , there are mountain farmers that have it harder than any of us ! Driving around in m reg shoguns that are falling apart , houses falling

Apart and working 15 hours a day

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I'm the fourth generation on our farm, passed all three driving tests first time, and work as an agricultural contractor. We are not all cowboys. On a late night run in an artic a couple of months ago I nearly hit a chipper left on the side of the Ludlow bypass that had a flat tyre, van still hitched to it, no hazards or signage. Fact of life, if you're an idiot, your job doesn't really come in to it at the end of the day.

 

 

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So why I am mowing grass 24/7 and my brother is fencing and my dad sat twiddling his thumbs ..

 

2,ooo pigs gone and 2farms cease to exist due to being loads of money in job apparently.

 

 

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I did say arable, yes farming is a sweeping statement and anything to do with animals is v hard, low land arable has always been good.

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I know plenty of low land arable farmers and they would be lucky to work 4 months of the year.

Stock keeping is a different game completely and I take my hat off to people that do it well although some of the automated pig units I have recently seen that is not the case and also put me off eating meat altogether if that's how soulless farming has become and the respect for the animals in it.

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My landlord would struggle to work 4 months a year, after harvest and a bit of ploughing he is off to his house in Scotland shooting till Christmas, Scotland till spring then plods on till autumn again! He is a great guy and openly admits modern arable farming is a doddle

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So why I am mowing grass 24/7 and my brother is fencing and my dad sat twiddling his thumbs ..

 

2,ooo pigs gone and 2farms cease to exist due to being loads of money in job apparently.

 

 

Ste

 

Same for my old man, 10 years ago we had 700 pigs and 4000 broilers, no livestock anymore.

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a lot of folk on here spouting off about things they clearly have no knowledge about.....agricultural machines, and how the laws apply.. tractors are limited to 20mph, any faster...breaks the law, tractors are limited to widths2.55m, same with trailed implements, there are age restrictions on the size you can drive, so 17 year olds cant drive the largest tractors, if its used on the road, although it doesnt require an MOT, it MUST be road legal mechaniclly, any tractor legally travelling over 20mph MUST have suspension on all wheels, as well as brakes(currently only 2 manufacturers, mercedes, and jcb), and must have mechanically connected steering(rules out the larger jcb fastracks). there are limits on axle spacings, limits on weights, lighting conditions and pages of rules. just remember, force the farmers off the road, and every bit of food you buy Will go up in price

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a lot of folk on here spouting off about things they clearly have no knowledge about.....agricultural machines, and how the laws apply.. tractors are limited to 20mph, any faster...breaks the law, tractors are limited to widths2.55m, same with trailed implements, there are age restrictions on the size you can drive, so 17 year olds cant drive the largest tractors, if its used on the road, although it doesnt require an MOT, it MUST be road legal mechaniclly, any tractor legally travelling over 20mph MUST have suspension on all wheels, as well as brakes(currently only 2 manufacturers, mercedes, and jcb), and must have mechanically connected steering(rules out the larger jcb fastracks). there are limits on axle spacings, limits on weights, lighting conditions and pages of rules. just remember, force the farmers off the road, and every bit of food you buy Will go up in price

 

The devil is in the detail, the legally bit at harvest time in our area anything goes legal width might be 2.55 m but + 0.5 m of big bale either side.

Most of the size of tractors and speed and age thing are regularly flouted and on farm 13 year olds and younger drving forklifts and tractors would we have13 year olds using chippers chainsaws etc?

I know this from experience my inlaws farm 2000 acre of mixed arable was dairy as well but not anymore they work very hard as do most farmers and I fully understand the issues with stock farmers but not grain barons any subsides should be better directed .the rules on inspections for hgv should apply to large ag machinery used on the roads as it has the same capability to kill and injure on the roads

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