Firewood armegeddan

[oldwoodcutter]

Well carrying on with this theme,yesterday a local farmer had a massive 360 just pull over and rip up a line of mature ash trees and semi mature ones,then dug roots out.Looked like a ww1 photo.

Piled up the lot into a massive heap ready for burning,today have been levelling to standard of a billiard table.

No dieback,no rot,just few hundred tons of bonfire material.

One tree in this line had gone over in gales and i asked him a fortnight ago if he wanted it cleared up and ide pay him for the timber,he simply said 'no' and walked away from me.

That went on the heap too.

[slim reaper]

Perhaps there are no limits for pushing over and burning whereas felling for firewood???

slim

[devon TWiG]

I deliver and shift quite a few woodburners ( I drive a lorry ) I was wondering about this a while back .... Wood price has gone up quite a bit in recent years ..many people do not use their stoves as main heating source .. often woodburners are replacing open fires ....coal is used in multi-fuel stoves as well ... firewood is being imported ... much pallet wood etc is scavenged that never used to be ...IF fracking takes of big time then gas price may fall making wood seem overpriced and messy work ... Also much wood that did not have much of a market other than pulp , pallet wood , pit props , chipboard manufacturing etc now has a ready market to the firewood industry with more merchants and suppliers than I have ever seen ( on here and in real life ) selling by the load and many in nets ... so in short I think market forces will settle things, but all of this depends on the weather as well I guess !!! On another thread on this site I could hardly believe the amount some of you guys are burning for personal use !!!....

[Backpain]

It will probably be another industrial demise where a small cottage industry supplying local timber to local people keeping people warn in probably the efficient and sustainable way possible will draw to a very quite close due to lack of common sense.

I can't imagine this happening in Scandinavia. Lets pay people to plant millions of tree's from EU grants plus huge sums to manger them! Then forget it even happened and just leave the woodlands to manage them selves. Would be nice to see a panorama investigation about how poorly managed and how difficult it is to earn a living from woodlands and wood fuel. When in reality it should be fairly straight forward. In Holland if you own a property and leave it empty, after a certain number of years squatters are allowed to use the property on the conditions that they improve it and use it correctly. I don't know the exact law but this is the gist of it. Maybe woodland owners should be subject to the same conditions.....by law!!!! how cool would that be.

[farmer rod]

Maybe woodland owners should be subject to the same conditions.....by law!!!! how cool would that be.

 

Well some woodland would be managed on a 40 yr or more interval, I could see 20 minutes of solicitor time wiping out any profit for a diligent woodland owner. (just to put an opposing view) there is a whole spectrum of owners, some good some not so, but if bureaucracy gets too involved we are all sunk:001_smile:

[Mark Bolam]

I supply plenty of stove owners with a bulk bag a year, if that.

For a few, obviously, it's just a 'show' thing.

Either that, or it takes them a year to burn my piss-wet poplar/willow mix....

 

 

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[Alycidon]

There is a push within the farming community to bring woods back into management for timber, this will also help their pheasant holding capacity. Any shortfall will be made up from imports.

 

People are buying stoves mainly because they fear energy shortages and they look nicer than a gas boiler. At least with a stove they are in control of their own destiny heat wise. Some people come in with the idea that they are cheaper to run than gas, I steer them to the Nottingham Energy Partnership web site for independent advice but advise that if they don't have their own supply of fuel then there is not a lot of saving to be had.

 

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[farmer rod]

I supply plenty of stove owners with a bulk bag a year, if that.

For a few, obviously, it's just a 'show' thing.

Either that, or it takes them a year to burn my piss-wet poplar/willow mix....

 

 

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Thats where I've been going wrong, I kept that willow crap for myself and sold all the decent dry stuff, I could have had satisfied customers like you Mark:001_smile:

 

Still, it kept me warm running out for another log.

[Mark Bolam]

Hahahahaha!

You'll know better next time mate!

 

 

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[Buzzsurgeon]

Re open all the coal mines and burn on an efficient modern stove, job done! Even coals renewable, just takes longer!