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Backpain

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    Starlingrad
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    Walking in the woods
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    Woodland and Tree Care

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  1. Backpain

    How wood is seasonned

    I've often wondered what the likes of CPL and certainly wood are selling to people. My understanding of firewood and this comes from from growing up in Canada is that after the lumber is felled its left to rest from one season to the next. During this time the process of decomposition begins and fugi starts to breakdown the structure of the wood. It's not a process of drying in anyway what so every, in some ways its the oposite. Its about exposing the timber to the elements. When the time is right we begin the process of splitting and drying. This process isn't to be confused with seasonning, its about drying. This process varies for different types of timber as most artisan firewood producers will know. So my question is, how do the likes of CPL and Certainly wood produce their firewood. Are they kiln drying green wood? Are people actually burning kiln dryed green oak or birch. The reason I ask this is because I've bought some bags from Home Bargains and they look like kiln dryed green timber. Am I wrong in thinking that DFRA thinks we need MC below 20% because they've carried out a study using green wood. Do anyone have access to the source of information they've based their figures on?
  2. Backpain

    Current timber prices for Ash

    Its mental because I used to pay £40 per ton no VAT and £200 to have it moved. At those rates we sold firewood at £70 a cubic meter and it made sense. Now I pay over £2k for a artic load and sell at £90 a cubic. There's no profit in it which every way you look at it, so that means no opportunity to invest in plant and expansion. I actually feel sorry for the loggers and forresters they do all the hard work and the hauliers end up with all the coin. And you are right, if you have all the kit to do tree work its very lucrative if you're willing to climb.
  3. Backpain

    So what's going to happen to the firewood market?

    Once I see the first log burner shop close you'll know the end is coming. We know its already started but the customers haven't seen it yet. I'm going to stock pile every ounce of very wood I cut down because its going to be like gold dust eventually.
  4. Backpain

    50 ton of Beech cordwood South Wales

    Is this sold?
  5. Backpain

    Current timber prices for Ash

    Everyone I speak to wants minimum £70 a ton + vat roadside for processor ready. Its mental
  6. Backpain

    So what's going to happen to the firewood market?

    To answer this question I typed "kiln dried logs" into Google and up popped my answer. Its obvious to see there's so many companies now offering nationwide delivery of imported kiln dried logs. However, not everybody wants to take a day off work to wait in for a kerbside delivery of extremely expensive wood that they've got to move from the street to their log store. This is one of our massive USP's. Many of my established customer drop me a text saying can you drop me some logs. I confirm delivery day, they leave the gate open, I deliver the logs and they pay me straight into the bank. I haven't even met some of my customers. When I put my price up to £90 a load (cubic meter approx) they didn't even sniff. I've actully sold more logs this year than ever.
  7. Backpain

    So what's going to happen to the firewood market?

    Larch makes great firewood, I had loads in a few years back which were very well seasonned though. A few lengths came in last year which I milled up to clad the garage with. Its lovely stuff.
  8. Backpain

    So what's going to happen to the firewood market?

    Its a worrying situation because like most log suppliers we're fairly small but it makes up nearly 50% of our income. So far this year we haven't managed to find any hardwood for sale. None of the local forestry businesses will sell because they have a logging business themselve. My only options are to buy imported logs or just find a regular job. Don't think I can climb tree's for much longer either, I keep injuring my knees. Another question on my mind is what happens when the cofired power station have to stop burning coal. Surely the situation can only get worse. At the least the suns shining hey.
  9. Backpain

    Imported Logs

    Came across this on treebay. Just wondered if anyone else has dealings with them. There was a scam a couple of years ago which looked similar.ay uk.
  10. Backpain

    Is this the end?

    Why has this not been on Panorama??? If you google Drax it's all positive PR and propagander in the Gardian and Telegraph. It's like effing Avatar. You could argue that I haven't got solar panels on my house but these guys are wholesale clearing Biodiverse woodlands across the US and presumably the UK to fuel this "inbetween" phasing out of Coal using pellets to boost the renewable figures. In the meantime hoovering all the stocks of hardwood for micro producer like me. It's effing mental, they don't give a shit the price of timber is because they're being subsidised to use it. Yes it all going to grow back but whats the cost to the ecosystems involved. Criky, it makes you want to be an activist.
  11. Backpain

    Is this the end?

    Jesus, thats scandless! So essentially any timber felled around Lincolnshire/Nottinghamshire is going to end up in their chute? Where does the shortfall come from, abroard I assume.
  12. Backpain

    Is this the end?

    An ever increasing demand for hardwood will eventually turn it into a luxury product no doudt and to be honest I didn't that coming, but it's not sustainable at this level so I see it going the same way as coal. I'm competing with small forestry businesses so sometimes when I buy the price has haulage on it twice. At £2500 for 26tons I've no chance of competeing with other local supplies who still sell at £90 cubic meter. I like to say its a way of life but it isn't, its boring, hard work in the cold and the heat. The point about it imploding is close but I think people are going to have to burn more softwood which used to cost next to nothing. I sell lots of mixed loads and people like them but at £60 + delivered the margins are slim.
  13. Backpain

    Is this the end?

    The saddest part will be letting down all my loyal customers. I've been delivering to them for year's and they greet me like an old friend. A lot of my customers do like a mixed load with some softwood mixed in which improves the profit and I sell arb arisings which adds to the profit, but there's just not enough in it to be worth the effort. I feel like someone is getting rich out of this and its not me!
  14. Backpain

    Is this the end?

    After 8 years selling firewood it would appear the end is near. I've no shortage of customers, in fact we just get busier evry year. But for the past few years its become more and more difficult to find local hardwood. We've had to source from bigger wholesalers just to get hold of coredwood. The price has literally doubled and I see no way of increasing retail price to compensate. It's a hard job with many overheads and I don't see any profit int now or in the future. It seems the only way to do it is to buy it standing and extract it yourself. So consequently I'm looking for a part time job driving a van which in reality will make me more profit.
  15. Backpain

    New rope for Zigzag

    Probably going over the old ground but can't find too much info on the Yale LimeLite rope. Is it suitable for a ZZ. I'm looking for opinions on which rope maintain their shape under load. I'm not fussed about knotability or self tending for that matter. Its more about how it feels on the hand grip wise. I used Tachyon before which I thought was ok and felt like real quality rope but now I've researched it, Blue Tongue and Imori seem popular. Does anyone know how LimeLite differs from these. Its difficult to compare elongation, weight etc as not all sellers list all the details.....does Kernmantle work better than double braid? I just wish New England HiVee worked in a ZZ, I used to love that rope. Cheers

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