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:lol: They've been saying that since the 70's :lol:

 

I remember my first geography lesson in 1963 we were told there was 40 years supply of oil at the then rate of consumption, by the time I got my motorbike 35 years later there were 14 million vehicles on our roads, how many now?

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Indeed. When North Sea oil was going to make us a super rich country we only gave ourselves 30 years' supply to do it with. Not super rich but there's plenty there still...

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Forestry Equipment & Machines | Jas P Wilson

 

Chart seems to have been removed, if you give them a bell I am sure they will e mail you a copy and a copy of a graph they sent out recently showing the differing KW outputs per ton against the Moisture Content.

 

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yertiz, chirz fer the pointer :thumbup:

 

http://www.forestry.gov.uk/website/pdf.nsf/pdf/FC-BEC-InfoSheet-Wood-as-Fuel-TechSupp.pdf/$FILE/FC-BEC-InfoSheet-Wood-as-Fuel-TechSupp.pdf

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Thank you for all your replies so far. Still waiting for a Stove Supplier to comment,but starting to think we might have a long wait!!!

So seriously , any sensible, realistic suggestions, of how we can make a joint effort, of making inroads to change this situation,about hardwood only to be used in wood burning stoves

 

I am a stove supplier and did comment earlier in the thread.

 

Education of the end user is the key, that and stopping people giving away hard cord at £60-£80 a cube.

 

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Thats the one, Wilsons also have graph showing heat outputs, thats also worth giving to your customers providing you are selling sub 20% logs. Keeps them away from the crap merchants,

 

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I've been looking at the bar chart that shows Calorific Values.

 

All the softwoods with the exception of Sitka Spruce have a higher heat output by dry ton than hardwoods.

 

Does this mean softwood burns hotter than hardwood......is this fact or have the Forestry Commission got their facts wrong:confused1:

 

Its interesting to read how many of us save the softwoods for our own stoves, I also save the Hawthorn, Cherry and Willow...

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I've been looking at the bar chart that shows Calorific Values.

 

All the softwoods with the exception of Sitka Spruce have a higher heat output by dry ton than hardwoods.

 

Does this mean softwood burns hotter than hardwood......is this fact or have the Forestry Commission got their facts wrong:confused1:

 

Its interesting to read how many of us save the softwoods for our own stoves, I also save the Hawthorn, Cherry and Willow...

 

Surly heat is just down to speed of combustion which will be dictated by air supply. Pretty sure on average softwood does have more energy per ton but most of us sell by volume and this where hardwood is the winner on the energy density.

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I've been looking at the bar chart that shows Calorific Values.

 

All the softwoods with the exception of Sitka Spruce have a higher heat output by dry ton than hardwoods.

 

Does this mean softwood burns hotter than hardwood......is this fact or have the Forestry Commission got their facts wrong:confused1:

 

Its interesting to read how many of us save the softwoods for our own stoves, I also save the Hawthorn, Cherry and Willow...

 

I think that they have their facts right . In simple terms the well seasoned soft wood will put out slightly more heat than one of the well seasoned hard woods ........ / per weight . So a wheel barrow full of holm oak will need 4 wheel barrows of soft wood for a similar out put :001_smile:

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