The woodsure scheme, do we need it?

[Peasgood]

7 minutes ago, Big J said:

I'm going to stop ranting now, before I properly start

Me too, it does my blood pressure no good at all.

[Woodworks]

1 hour ago, Big J said:

This whole scheme will be in the evidence dossier in 50 years time as one of the obvious examples of how the Brits can take a good idea (ensuring that people burn dry firewood) and turn it into a complete farce.

 

Much like HS2. Having high speed public transport is great, but not if you demolish dozens of ancient woodlands along the way and at such expense that the cost equates to paying every man, woman and child in the UK almost £2500. And where is the benefit for people in Wales, Scotland or N. Ireland?

 

Or the stamp duty cut to stimulate the housing market in the wake of covid. That saving just going straight onto the asking price, pushing the price of housing up to even more unsustainable levels. 

 

I'm going to stop ranting now, before I properly start 😄

Dont rub it in J some of us are stuck in this dumb as f**k country with no means of escape 

[Dan Maynard]

I think it's great how we are cutting pointless bureaucracy now we are free from the shackles of the EU.

No, wait ....

[Woodworks]

19 minutes ago, Big J said:

 

I think that's the first time I've every heard/read you swear Beau. I apologise for the provocation 😲 

 

 

 

No problem.

 

Its not the this scheme that's made me so ...... ... more our whole political landscape and schemes like this are just the icing on the cake 😆

 

As for Woodsure I will cough up and take the hit. Selling exactly the same product I did before with the customer picking up the extra costs. No choice in the matter 

Edited June 17, 2021 by Woodworks

[sime42]

HS2 really makes me despair of our politicians, (and maybe even the average Joe public as well). When challenged about the destruction of ancient woodlands they always respond with : "oh it's ok, we're planting thousands/millions of new trees as compensation". Obviously we on here all know that's complete nonsense, it doesn't work like that.

 

The fact that our country is run by characters with such little practical understanding of how the real world actually works is deeply depressing.

 

The Woodsure Scheme is yet another example of this malaise. As is the biomass nonsense; shipping woodchip all over the country, and even from beyond, to feed "Environmentally Friendly" power stations.

 

 

 

 

[renewablejohn]

Just got an email today to say that Woodsure have been appointed to take over the running of the BSL scheme.  Sounds like jobs for the boys.

[WhiteHorseEnergy]

Hi, it's us again (or rather, it's Lauren - I'm the content writer at white horse energy). 

 

Bit of an update. Here is a short article about 'Ready to Burn' and the wet firewood ban, published in a magazine as a freelance piece of writing. All the information should be relevant and up to date, but this particular version of the article was confirmed for publication a while ago so it may lack a few points (let me know if you feel I've missed something out). 

 

See page 70 of this publication - a boating magazine of all places, but still relevant! A more in depth version about this will also appear on our website eventually. Apologies about the blurriness!

 

There's so much information to take in on the HETAS website so I hope this condenses it a fair bit. 

~ Lauren.

 

Link: (& image of article below)

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[Vedhoggar]

Hi Lauren, 

Thanks for posting the article, a few comments:

1) first paragraph in article is wrong in that wood should be <20% MC but it doesn’t have to be kiln dried it just has to be <20%. 
2) loose bark and radial cracks is misleading and really should not be used as a guide at all as not an indication that wood is <20%, in my experience it could be >25%.
3) on pin moisture meters I spoke to and wrote afterwards DEFRA on 24 May asking them to explain what they mean by calibration of moisture metres which they mention in guidance when selling >2m3 and have not had answer (said there would be a reply in 20 days). We also don’t know on what basis <20% is to be measured. 
4) Not everyone is measuring the moisture content of wood in the same way. 

Edited July 15, 2021 by Vedhoggar

[doobin]

'Particles could get into the bloodstream and airways easily, eating away at organ tissue'

 

What the actual ****************? This is written like some badly scripted horror movie. You should be ashamed of publishing such drivel. You've only suggested 'they could', and haven't given any citations as to how they 'eat away at organ tissue'.

 

White Horse Energy are clearly just jumping on the bandwagon and shamelessly promoting themselves. I can't stand companies like that.

[Paul in the woods]

The article is a bit one sided. The law hasn't banned wet firewood, someone could still buy some lovely kiln dried wood and keep it somewhere wet. You can also cut your own of course.

 

I think you really must make clear than most cheap pin based moisture meters will measure on a dry basis so anything under 25% dry basis is fine to burn. It's about time Woodsure made this far clearer.