Brexit and the arb industry.

[Stubby]

8 hours ago, trigger_andy said:

If we are that bad here in the UK why are there so many immigrants risking their lives to get to our shores? They literally have to walk past most of the Northern European Countries to get to the UK, or at least they could find a safe land route to anywhere in Northern Europe that does not involve dinghies in freezing winter temperatures. 

 

 

They like a challenge .

[Rough Hewn]

You think farm animals are pets?

Your post?

[Khriss]

1 minute ago, Stubby said:

They like a challenge .

Yea cos struggling out of a war zone, starving with yr kids strapped to you, just nothing compared to tackling British Bullshit Beuerocracy  😉 K

[Jamie Jones]

8 hours ago, Big J said:

Also utter nonsense. 

 

Functionally, Britain is the poor man of Northern Europe. We work the longest hours, we are the least productive. We live in the poorest (and most expensive) houses, drive on the poorest roads, use the most expensive railway system in the world, have the poorest access to green space, have terrible employment rights (zero hours contracts, for example), have poorer parental leave, poorer tenant rights, some of the worst cancer survival rates in Europe, have a failing and increasingly privatised educational system and increasingly wealth inequality.

 

Britain would do far better if it dropped the pretense of being 'Great'. It's exasperating listening to Brexiteers drivel on about recapturing the wartime spirit and how wonderful and utopian Britain is. It's almost as if they've not been to other countries.

We may have some of the worst political leaders...
But being part of the EU has not done us any favours. We have given too much to be on a so called level playing field that has been anything but level... 
Fishing... We have the best fishing waters and have far more than other countries... We used to have a fishing fleet as well... Now many of our fishing ports lay empty while European fishing boat fish our waters.
We had the best and Highest quality Steel manufacturing in Europe. Some of it was closed as a result of giving German industry the opportunity to develop.
Our NHS is far better than some EU countries, but not at the top of the league.
Poorest Parenting: Blame the parents not the government.
The Education system would be better perhaps if the parents were better and installed a better sense of discipline and respect in the children.
The UK's biggest problem is we don't manufacture that much any more... Why? Historically the Unions saw the industrial leaders as the enemy and wouldn't work with them. Where as in Germany the Unions worked with the industrial leaders and that's why they beat us hands down. The Workers, Bosses, Unions are all working for the same goals. Where as it became so toxic in the UK that manufactures moved there activities off shore and the jobs all went... 
Then there is the youth of today that would rather stay at home on their xboxes instead of going out and working.. The UK got into a depend on the state ideology and and we have a weak work force.
That is why so many people from across Europe have been able to do so we over here. They have a better work ethic. The last three people I have given employment to have not lasted more than tree months at best.. 
I would be more than happy to employ someone from the EU and I would expect that they would earn more working for me.

[trigger_andy]

6 minutes ago, Stubby said:

They like a challenge .

Certainly makes more sense than the other explanation.  

[Stubby]

1 minute ago, trigger_andy said:

Certainly makes more sense than the other explanation.  

You could make it into one those TV things , like  " Total Wipe Out " or Ninja Warrior " ... 

[trigger_andy]

Just now, Stubby said:

You could make it into one those TV things , like  " Total Wipe Out " or Ninja Warrior " ... 

Might as well. 

[Johnsond]

1 hour ago, Khriss said:

Yea cos struggling out of a war zone, starving with yr kids strapped to you, just nothing compared to tackling British Bullshit Beuerocracy  😉 K

Really ?? 
having seen first hand whilst working on a vessel in the Med that was obliged to take onboard refugees I have to disagree regarding the comments on kids being strapped to people. The ones I saw were predominantly by a large margin young males. This is also what you will see on most of the boats crossing the channel. A lot are not from war zones by any standard. 

Edited December 16, 2020 by Johnsond

[skyhuck]

37 minutes ago, Rough Hewn said:

Your post?

Thats not from my post that you quote, when you mentioned pets.🙄

[harvey b davison]

I cannot believe some of the doom and gloom some people are posting. It's as though they really want this country to fail. Cannot get my head around this.