Big J on radio 4..

[John Shutler]

1 hour ago, tree-fancier123 said:

if you don't want to be friendly and talk to people how much extra on top of that 500 would you estimate the business rent to be?

sorry, i don’t understand? 

[tree-fancier123]

48 minutes ago, John Shutler said:

sorry, i don’t understand? 

What I meant is if a stranger (not integrated into the rural community) as you put it,  just went along and asked several local farmers to rent some space for machinery and timber storage how much more would they expect to pay?

I've rented a container and space for a trailer, not at mates rates and that £500 seems like there is some other element to the transaction - you love the people and they love you back

[John Shutler]

42 minutes ago, tree-fancier123 said:

What I meant is if a stranger (not integrated into the rural community) as you put it,  just went along and asked several local farmers to rent some space for machinery and timber storage how much more would they expect to pay?

I've rented a container and space for a trailer, not at mates rates and that £500 seems like there is some other element to the transaction - you love the people and they love you back

it’s not a member family if that’s what your getting at. I’ve lived in the area my whole life, grown up knowing the same people and drinking in the same pubs. you know,  things that happen if you live in a rural community 

my last yard which was about 1/2 a mile away was about a third of the size and i payed £240 a month 

[doobin]

Although I presume these are ag yards, so technically unlawful to run a commercial enterprise from?

 

Not knocking you, I do the same. You'll never make any money in this day and age if you play 100% by the rules.

[Stubby]

4 minutes ago, doobin said:

Although I presume these are ag yards, so technically unlawful to run a commercial enterprise from?

 

Not knocking you, I do the same. You'll never make any money in this day and age if you play 100% by the rules.

Would you technically have to apply for a change of use ? 

[Chalgravesteve]

7 hours ago, Big J said:

You're missing the point though. The nonsense that is the market rate in the UK is driven by the ever increasing 'value' of property. People are only having to spend more on rent as they are priced out of purchasing these properties. I can afford premises at market rate, but refuse to pay it as it doesn't represent value for money. All it does is concentrate yet more wealth in the hands of a few, very rich individuals. Much more provision needs to be made for small and medium sized businesses to own their own premises instead of having to resort to renting for wealthy property magnates. 

 

I would have no problem whatsoever with a broad increase in the building of industrial and business units in the UK. We have a proud history of manufacturing which is now firmly in the past. In order to compete in a post Brexit, post Trump (trade wars) world, a little self reliance would not go amiss, as well as a broadened economy not so dependent on the service sector. 

Now I’m baffled. It’s you that is missing the point. 

 

So you can afford what you want at market rates, and you said there was a place within 20 miles of you. You have a successful business and yet, what you covet most highly, a property that is best for you, your family, and your future, you don’t go and get?

 

What has been the point in being in business for so long then? You want to be the richest person in the graveyard? 

 

All because you don’t want to pay market rate to someone you think has too much money already. Madness. 

 

 

[monkeybusiness]

7 hours ago, Big J said:

You're missing the point though. The nonsense that is the market rate in the UK is driven by the ever increasing 'value' of property.

As demand increases (through humans breeding more than anything else) the price of property will increase, as there is a finite amount of it (basic rules of supply/demand). 

Whether it is a house, a building plot, or an acre of land that grows barley particularly well - it is going to get more expensive over time if population continues to grow. Artificially deflating the values to help a current generation get what they want ‘NOW’ will change nothing long term, but may damage the availability of land capable of sustaining life in the future. 

 

[Mick Dempsey]

‘Buy land, they stopped making it years ago’

 

Actually, who would have guessed what a great thread this would become?

Edited August 31, 2019 by Mick Dempsey

[tree-fancier123]

1 hour ago, Stubby said:

Would you technically have to apply for a change of use ? 

If a gardener keeps their machinery in the garage do they have to apply for a change of use for their house from purely residential, as they are now operating a commercial enterprise from their driveway?

[AHPP]

35 minutes ago, monkeybusiness said:

Artificially deflating the values to help a current generation get what they want ‘NOW’ will change nothing long term, but may damage the availability of land capable of sustaining life in the future. 

 

Building land is artificially inflated at the moment.