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  1. The science behind forced log drying

    £10k? You are doing it wrong! Electrics cost me about £2k per annum. We burn seasoned arb waste that is difficult to split in the boiler. If I didn’t have to jump through hoops to get the RHI accreditation I could have built the boiler and kiln for substantially less. As it is the whole thing is paid for now so the cost of operating the kiln for a year is about £2.5k and we could in theory get 40m2 a week through it so 2000 M2 i reckon it costs me about £4 a cube if I ignore the rhi
  2. The science behind forced log drying

    Yup that’s about right. No bad debt. It’s paid for in advance. We rarely do COD. It’s as much about service, delivering the bags to the customers log store not just dumping it on the drive. We even taken them through or into some houses!
  3. The science behind forced log drying

    Main business is my golf club. I do the firewood as a winter business for my greenstaff. So I already have most of the overheads covered and it’s just additional revenue/profit and keeps everyone busy. I now want to expand it and employ someone full time which means we need to double our output to about 1800/2000 bags to justify the additional staff cost. We dont advertise as hard as we could so it’s entirely feasible to do it in my opinion.
  4. The science behind forced log drying

    We sell almost exclusively in barrow bags. Hand packed so they are solid. We sell a bag between £39.50 - £49.50 each depending on how many are ordered together. 4 or more for the £39.50 rate. We sold virtually bang on 900 bags this year. I reckon they are about 100kg a bag on average so that would be 90 tonnes. Website is quite tidy, thanks!
  5. The science behind forced log drying

    That's exactly the problem with seasoning wood against kiln drying it. The sheer volume of space required to properly season firewood is enormous, and certainly in the London/Home Counties/south East England area, you can find many other uses for such large covered areas that produce more/same income for less work. Stock is simply money tied up. If someone holds £100,000 worth of stock for two years to season it, whilst I hold £5,000 worth of stock and keep replenishing it, and I turnover my stock once a week for a 26 week season, then I actually sell £130,000 worth but only tied up £5,000 at any one time......Its not how much stock you hold, its how fast you sell it and replace it and sell it again that counts.
  6. How are your stocks holding up?

    I'm fairly small scale (about £40K sales a year) We serve the local market within 15 miles radius. Own kiln, so we split, dry it in kiln for a week and sell it. Repeat as often as necessary. Was going quiet (for a week) and its gone nuts again. We create stock in the summer and by this stage of the season we can keep up with demand.

    Waste of time as a wheel barrow. What you want is one of these.... carries 500Kg easily. Manual tipping of the rear body. 48V rechargeable batteries, they cost me £850 each. Absolute bargain!
  8. What Stovax stove is this?

    Thanks. I had already told him about those as well!
  9. What Stovax stove is this?

    Probably sorted it...looking like a stovax riva large.....
  10. What Stovax stove is this?

    Hi All My brother has just moved into a new place which has a stovax stove installed. He says it can be connected to the radiators as well, although I've not seen it up close to see if it does have a back boiler or not? I'm working on the basis that the two front flaps under the doors are the main air vents, and that the lever on the right side will move the internal grates to drop ash into the bottom of the stove to clear it out? I'd be grateful if anyone can identify what stove it is and where any other vents might be for airwash/secondary burn? I will be telling him to shift those logs leaning up against it pronto!! Cheers
  11. How do they cope being so close

    Hot air rises!! Try lying where they lie. It is surprisingly ok, but generally, we have some part of the body at glass height and that is too hot.
  12. Drying Firewood when RHI payments stop.

    The only building I have nearby that requires heat is the staff facilities which essentially is a mobile home/caravan. It was non qualifying for RHI when we set up our scheme and if I make it nice and toasty in there they won’t go outside and split logs in the cold and wet! 😂😂 next nearest building that can use the heat is 100+ m away and the insulated pipe work to put it onto the Rhi boiler is not worth the cost. We park the old diesel forklift next to the air vent in the shed. -5 outside and starts on the button. 😃👍
  13. Drying Firewood when RHI payments stop.

    Likewise. I’m not going to change our existing system or add capacity. It’s fine as it is and there is plenty of scope to get more wood through the kiln over 12 months.
  14. Drying Firewood when RHI payments stop.

    The Department for Business, Energy & Industrial Strategy has published the Government's full response and here is a brief summary of the changes: The Government does not intend to remove all drying practices as eligible heat uses. This includes drying of crops, and wood used for purposes other than fuels which will remain eligible (subject to the existing scheme rules around drying) However, the Government will: Remove wood-fuel drying as an eligible heat use other than where the renewable heat installation is replacing a fossil fuel heat source. Where installations are considered to be in development, they will have an additional six months after the reforms take place to get an RHI application in. For plants that are in development, evidence will be required such as planning permission and purchase of equipment to be eligible for the proposed transition period Remove the drying, cleaning or processing of waste as an eligible heat use as soon as the reforms are implemented Further tighten the eligibility of swimming pools so that only swimming pools that are used for a municipal or commercial purpose receive Non-domestic RHI support These changes will apply to new participants (those applying for accreditation after the new rules come into force) and existing participants who add capacity on or after the date the reforms come into effect. This is in addition to any participant who begins to use heat generated by an accredited installation for an ineligible heat use on or after the date the reforms come into effect. Additionally, the Government will amend RHI scheme rules so that installations, where heat is produced predominantly for single domestic premises, will no longer be eligible under the Non-domestic RHI. The Government will not, at this time, amend the eligible heat use criteria in relation to any other heat uses. These changes are currently anticipated for spring 2018. In effect, this will mean once the new regulations have gone through the parliamentary process which could be as little as six weeks from now Excellent.....so those of us who are already accredited will have absolutely no likelihood of increased competition in the kiln dried market for the next decade or so...... was clearly a masterstroke in getting our setup sorted out early doors......
  15. Drying Firewood when RHI payments stop.

    I’m not sure I would want the downstream heat from my kiln heating a “normal” building. Once it’s passed over the logs to dry them it has become laden with moisture so it needs to be vented in my opinion. Taking heat off the boiler to the building as a separate draw is a different issue.


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