A good forestry lid.

[AHPP]

8 hours ago, MattyF said:

I think one is designed to take impacts from falling debris whilst the climbing lid is designed if you slip and swing and take an impact.
I wore one for years in the woods but it appears to be something you can get pulled up on .. even wearing a climbing lid on the ground doing tree work and unfortunately the way things are going you might as well stick to the rules.

If you spiked ten feet up a stem and some dead wood fell on your head, you'd expect your climbing helmet to help you.

I had a quick look and, without wanting to fuck about trying to understand the various standards, nothing was explicit other than the HSE link someone posted on this thread and some of the blurb about Husky helmets on the Honey Brothers website (neither hugely authoritative legal sources).

 

The thing I find mad about helmets is the lack of chinstraps on the ground ones (same could be said for all other industries that wear helmets). I'm no terrified safety poof but I wear my chinstrap for everything and can't understand why anyone wouldn't. Loads of the videos on the internet of people having accidents cutting trees include their helmets pinging off into the undergrowth before they continue being thrown about, getting stuff dropped on them etc.

[Pete Mctree]

A ground based helmet does not employ a chin strap. This is because the helmet is designed to come off you head on impact - it is a very effective way of disapaiting the energy

[MattyF]

If you spiked ten feet up a stem and some dead wood fell on your head, you'd expect your climbing helmet to help you.

 
The thing I find mad about helmets is the lack of chinstraps on the ground ones (same could be said for all other industries that wear helmets). I'm no terrified safety poof but I wear my chinstrap for everything and can't understand why anyone wouldn't. Loads of the videos on the internet of people having accidents cutting trees include their helmets pinging off into the undergrowth before they continue being thrown about, getting stuff dropped on them etc.

I very rarely deploy the chin strap ! Maybe if I want to swing around up side down on a rec climb , or it’s so hot I’ll wear ear plugs which for both is pretty much never...I hate the things seriously they make me feel claustrophobic and restricted ! I got twatted hard a while back by a large chunk of collapsing tree whilst wearing an Arb helmet with out a chin strap, I think as pete said the helmet coming off absorbed so much of the impact as when I looked at the lump after I came to the conclusion it should of broken my neck .
I’m not a HS freak either it’s just the folk visiting and inspecting our sites are.

[steve collins]

 

5 hours ago, MattyF said:

I’m not a HS freak either it’s just the folk visiting and inspecting our sites are.

Dont forget your own personal vehicle oil spill kit is the latest!!

[AHPP]

6 hours ago, Pete Mctree said:

A ground based helmet does not employ a chin strap. This is because the helmet is designed to come off you head on impact - it is a very effective way of disapaiting the energy

 

5 hours ago, MattyF said:

 

I very rarely deploy the chin strap ! Maybe if I want to swing around up side down on a rec climb , or it’s so hot I’ll wear ear plugs which for both is pretty much never...I hate the things seriously they make me feel claustrophobic and restricted ! I got twatted hard a while back by a large chunk of collapsing tree whilst wearing an Arb helmet with out a chin strap, I think as pete said the helmet coming off absorbed so much of the impact as when I looked at the lump after I came to the conclusion it should of broken my neck .
I’m not a HS freak either it’s just the folk visiting and inspecting our sites are.

 

 I've heard the energy dissipation thing before but can't remember where. What are your sources for it?

Either way, I know what I prefer. Strapped on. I like wearing a helmet full stop actually. Muffs on and visor down lets me really plough into the work. Whatever works for you though.

[Mark J]

1 hour ago, AHPP said:

 

 I've heard the energy dissipation thing before but can't remember where. What are your sources for it?

Either way, I know what I prefer. Strapped on. I like wearing a helmet full stop actually. Muffs on and visor down lets me really plough into the work. Whatever works for you though.

Just remember to look up occasionally.

[Mark Bolam]

On 16/02/2018 at 12:20, steve collins said:

 

Dont forget your own personal vehicle oil spill kit is the latest!!

Is that for everyone Steve, or just Land Rover owners?

[htb]

Mark turning up in a land rover is an automatic red card with the FC.

[JAG63]

Current HSE Chainsaw regs but if they don't like climbing type they'll just risk assess it out anyway.

Safety helmet

BS EN 397   BS EN 14052 BS EN 12492

Helmets to BS EN 397 or BS EN 14052 are only recommended for ground work. For tree climbing operations AFAG recommends a mountaineering style helmet complying with BS EN 12492. A helmet to this standard is also suitable for use on the ground where there is nothing in the task risk assessment to disqualify it. Helmets may be available which claim a BS EN 397 or BS EN 14052 shell and cradle but a BS EN 12492 chinstrap/retention system. Such hybrid helmets are also suitable for use on the ground where there is nothing in the task risk assessment to disqualify it.

[Woodworks]

Does the peak of regular helmet not protect against kick back? Seem to remember being taught this many moons ago.