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Morning all. Delayed start this morning, bleary eyed after a late finish on emergency stuff. Nothing exciting came in unfortunately. Don't imagine there'll be much more to come, the forecast is for gusting mid 40's today. Less rain expected thankfully. Have a good one folks.

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Any one think that the taking the worst bits of a jenson and combining it with their worst bits and making a Forst had anything to do with the decline ?

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Morning all . Went out for a " Christmas " dinner with some old workmates . Carvery at the Ngs Head in Chi . Still full up !

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Good Morning Feels mild. New site in Sunbury-on-thames. Avoiding motorways. Nasty yesterday. 4 lanes to 2 at the M25/M3 bad smash and 25 minutes to cover 100m Be good

Good morning Arbtalkers , supposed to be a better day here weather-wise 😊

How long Britain could really fight for if war broke out tomorrow APPLE.NEWS In the event of a war, one expert suggests the British Army could be incapable of fighting effectively on... Time to spend money on things that count.

Heavy rain all morning. Already call it off. If you’re going out there in this, bravo.

Tom started going to the gym at this time in the morning, must be target rich environment! Sounds still out, best get a cup of Yorkshire finest. Be good y'all! Ure, Ayah, Heap.

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Big news coming. Can't say too much. Massive announcement on the way. All in due course.

Nowt to say. I left for other reasons but was happy enough with the majority of the folk i worked with, was previously an owner of two of the brand and wish the staff at Greenfab well. It is hard not to get bitter and twisted after all that happened (or didn't) during my 27 years there and I'll always look over that fence too. But, my time there is done. Jensen (the factory) have always been awkward to deal with. This current patch of difficulties is not helpful for those who want to buy them or are already an owner or dealer. Every brand has its idiosyncrasies, as does every dealer/supplier. Hint....if you buy a machine and have issues, call the sales bloke. He had your commission and wants your next order, if he is any good, he will move heaven and hell to sort your issues. If he has any spine, he will 'sell' his own product/organisation without slagging off his opponents or their wares..... I think the lecture ends here.

No. Seems it’s YOU spending “too much time on YouTube” you womper 😄

Cant be too hard to retrofit 2 speed tracking? Is it just an extra capacity pump?

I also looked at TW and the salesman seemed a bit clueless- I knew more about the machine than he did and I’d never seen a 230 in the flesh. Quoted me a price a couple of k higher than on their website - then asked me where I had seen that price 🤣 And spare wheel with mounting bracket at 450.00 I thought was a joke too

if your aim and power are great then you should be set, no? Unless that shite timing means you’re not very accurate, in which case it sounds like your aim is, in fact, shite. Listen, don’t speak.

I felt the same when they were the Greenmech dealer for our area and was happy to deal with a dealer in Birmingham instead, neither are Greenmech dealers now.

This is Hawthorne wine. Anyone tried it before? I'm curious as to how it's going to turn out. It's very early days, but based on the taste I had last night when transferring to the demijohn, it's promising. Seemed to have a good amount of tannin and acidity. Bit sweet though so I hope that'll ferment out.

*Bump* Do we any home brewers still on here, or have they all left?

No sowing bitch seeds until we get the Greenmech goss.

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Having dealt with THW in the past I wouldn’t deal with them - although this could be branch specific