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Your assumptions are yet again wrong. Im born and raised in the country. I still live in the Country in an old Farm House. I was raised as one of four siblings in a council house/flat by my Mother. We grew up for the most part with virtually nothing. That I am.

I see where your coming from here. I feel if I where to take the stance of being against raising beasts and birds for the pleasure of blasting them outta the sky or shooting them then Id have to become a vegetarian. That is if they're being eaten after of course. I think being raised in the wild, or as close to the wild as possible then cleanly dispatched is a far better life than on a farm and then killed to Halal standards.

The Laird getting stuck in on my first log. [emoji16] There’s nothing he does not know about breeding Red and Fallow Deer. He’s sold stock to Germany and as far away as Australia (pre-foot and mouth) and still gets called with questions.

No, nor have I joined a shoot. I don’t really have that much interest in it. Been offered to take down a Stag. Not really into that either. They gave me a nice Trophy head instead, it’s now above my mantle piece.(old pic) Could go Salmon Fishing whenever I want in Season, CBA either. Far to busy at home. I don’t have a have a problem with any of these sports as it’s far more humane even if it’s not really my thing or something I have time for. But I know a bunch of the Beaters. Some live on the Estate. They love the beer money and do it for the peasant, I mean Beater Shoot after the gentry have had their fun.

I know loads who beat. My mates got an Estate and when it’s their turn for a shoot try all flock over (pun intended) Why do they take £80 a day then if it’s just for fun? They struggled to get enough till they upped it to £80. None of them would do it unless they go their beaters day either. Plebs don’t tend to have their own Estates so have to dance to the Estate Owners Tune and all pretend they donut for the fresh air and doggie walks. 🤣🤣🤣 Maybe it’s more of a class thing round my way? By Glamis Castle there is a lot of ties to the RF. “The Laird” on the Estate certainly is. Helped me Mill (whittle ) my first ever log there at the age of 80 as well. He actually sounds just like Prince Charles.

They do throw the plebs a bone just to give the look of inclusion and now a classless sport that’s no longer a blood one. Then bugger off on the real hunts with the rest of the landed gentry. It’s a bit like Pheasant shooting round our way. The Beaters on minimum wage get a Beaters Shoot at the end of the Season. They doff their caps to their betters and say thank you very much for the scraps they leave. I don’t think people realise that if you’re Sink Estate Scum that’s all you’ll ever be. If you’re paying £40 to play at Fox Hunting all you’re doing is aiding the real Hunters in whitewashing the sport whilst they laugh at you.

There is simply no justification. There’s loads of Horsey types round us. How they get by without poncing around “pretending” to hunt Foxes I’ll never know. Loads of game estates around us too. I have no issues with that. A close friend has a Deer and Salmon Estate with the usual game bird shoots. Fine with that too since they’re not getting a semi off of watching dogs slowly rip apart animals.

Well, your suspicion is inaccurate. Well yes, in the context of dispatching an animal that is generally the definition of humane. As opposed to a protracted and painfilled death as per the examples I have previously mentioned. Im not really sure that equating enjoying the slow and painful death of animals with living in a rural part of the UK goes hand in hand. Having lived in remote parts of Scotland most of my life I have yet to find someone who shares your definition of rural, and I hope I never do. PM me if you'd like an answer to that question.

I dont have plenty money, Ive never stated that. I'll admit Im paid fairly well though. As are you. Being paid a good wage does not make me Landed Gentry unfortunately. Yes, I think it is best we agree to disagree as you clearly have no idea what hunting is all about. Now off to the Stables with you, your master needs his boots polished.

Humane as in a clean shot and not an intentionally prolonged death, for example traps, poison or getting ripped to shreds by a pack of hounds. I hope this resolves your confusion.

Only when they contradict themselves. I know, never mind, eh? BS. How many working class people can afford that kind of lifestyle? Horses, Poncy get-up's, the Dogs, the Dogs training, the land. You're delusional if you think its a sport for the common man. They may well tolerate a few peasants joining them to have a veneer of being for the people but thats about it. I agree with you here. The Scabs are certainly not the kind of people Id associate with. Im sure they fall into the same category as the insulate Britain mob. Attention seekers with little better to do with their time. Perhaps they are a necessary evil though as they appear to have single handedly had Fox Hunting Banned and enforce that ban far more than any Police Force would. The difference in my opinion is the word humane. I dont have anything against hunting, fishing or shooting of vermin. I dont Hunt but wish I had the time for it and I rarely fish for the same reasons. But I detest Fox Hunting or the "wink wink, we're just pretending today, woops the dog caught a Fox and we had to dig them both out the den and we could not stop the Dog ripping it to pieces" hunting.

Bit blowy last night. Gardens a bit of a mess.

Using that statement we can thus assume all illegal activity in the UK dropped to zero as soon as the ban was implemented. Its really good knowing there is zero murderers and rapes in the UK. Oh wait. Nonsense. Well doing just that has worked wonders in my neck of the woods. Some of the local estates go together and shot alot of foxes. Now there is no issues with them and I no longer even lock the chickens and ducks up in the evenings. Zero taken since they did the shoot. When the population builds again they will go out and have another humane cull. If you chose to believe that then thats on you. But its certainly not reality. Because on the whole its blood thirst upper class toffs who engage in this sport. If we where talking about Cock or dog Fighting then we'd be talking about underclass Pikeys. I dont agree. But I do find it amusing how your final thought contradicts your first.

100% agree.

I live in the country, I was brought up in the country. I do not agree with Fox Hunting in the slightest and it should be completely banned and Id happily see anyone who partakes being issued lengthy custodial sentences. Fines are pointless, that just means legal with a price. There is simply no need for the sociopathic (as Kev mentioned earlier) torture of the Foxes for these peoples pleasure under the guise of vermin control. By all means control the numbers, but do so humanely.

No, hence you kill all the rats you possibly can til your infestation is eliminated. Ive had two infestations in 4 years. Im sure I'll get another in time. But Dogs, cats and a water hose keeps them at bay. Im tapped? You're the guy that seems to be suggesting you ask the foxes nicely if it was they that carried out the latest attacks and if they say no then off they pop. Utter bonkers.

What about rats? If you have an infestation of them do you suggest just bumping off a select few of them? Do you think that would solve your infestation issues?

Yes, so utterly pointless. Just shoot them all.

Would that person bring the Fox in for questioning? Maybe a lie detector test? 🤣🤣🤣

He should bite your hand off at that. Not bad going for 'soft' Hardwood.

That’s true. I was thinking green. As it’s semi-seasoned double that. 🤣

What would he get per ton as firewood? Any less than that and you’re taking money out of his pocket. That in my mind is a good mates rate. £50-65 a ton? You’d be doing well at that I’d say.

Well done Connor! And thank you very much Bill for your generosity and a bit of fun.

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That does look very nice! I do like the nails showing too, very rustic. And since we're ina farmhouse and going for the rustic look we may emulate that.