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Believe me they do, every day. I have posted on this issue in the firewood section so wont go through it again but its good news for the firewood burning industry as it roots out purveyors of crap. Although there is a loophole for kiln dried logs that are dry on the outside and wet in the middle. MC below 20% will be from the center of a fresh split log. The Hetas Woodsure scheme in my eyes is a stitch up. A

Now people this is far from new and well overdue. This is part of the Europe Wide Eco Design initive designed to reduce emissions and increase efficiency, its been coming for at least 4 years. There is also a proposed ban on high sulpher man made smokeless fuels but maybe thats been dropped as its not being kicked around today. As a stove retailer I get called out 3 or 4 times a year to a stove that is not generating the expected level of heat, this has ALWAYS been caused by users burning wood that is wet. Even kiln dried wood that has not been in a kiln for long enough ( so dry on the outside but wet in the middle) is being dished out in the market. I went out Boxing day evening to take some logs to a single mother who had been given a load of kiln dried for Xmas that was 40% in the middle. This is good news for people in the firewood industry who do a good job and sell dry wood, if you sell green wood as ready to burn you will be in trouble. Future sales of green will need to be 3 cu m or more and sold as that and the evidence recorded. At the end of the day its not that hard to get seasoned wood below 20%, split it and store under cover in a barn that is open on at least 2 sides, leave it for 8 months or so and there you are. I bring in kiln dried from Lithuania yes. stacked in crates, easy to handle, around 100 quid for the equiv of 1.6 cu m if loose, and no processing. MC is under 5% from my supplier. I get three stacked crates onto my trailer so thats 575/630 quids worth of wood depending on species of timber, with seasoned I get 2 x 1.2 cu m bags at 125, so only 250 worth on a load. Whats not to like. I also sell seasoned from wood off local farms, I have given up trying to buy decent processor size cord as I posted last week. Paying 85 a ton plus VAT delivered that will make 1.5 cu m of logs after processing is not really any cheaper and the resale price and margin is lower as every idiot with a chainsaw is chopping prices for beer money. My little processor single handed does about 6 cube a day on farm waste and 10 on 3m first thinnings, The regulations will be tightened further in 2025 and possibly again in 2030 not that the latter will bother me to much, I will be long dead by then. You all might not see it this way but this is good news for the wood burning industry, A

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There are other brands of similar push in air fittings, your local truck parts specialist factor should be able to help if needed. In a previous life I was a wholesaler of heavy truck parts. A

You only need twin wall fully insulated flue outside of a brick cavity, so if its in a chimney then use flexi liner. For 1500 quid you cant get a can a really nice stove, Charnwood Aire, Morso Badger but these are not usually boiler compatible, but you wont go far wrong with my original Ecoburn widescreen recommendation, pretty sure this offers an optional clip in boiler ( to replace the rear firebrick) but it may not be possible to do that with the new 2022 compliant Ecoburn series 3 due to be launched in May or June. ( I do have one in the showroom and as it has a terciery air system I am 99% sure that wont be compatible with a boiler). Another thought is that Charnwood now have flue pipe boilers, these connect to the flue flange of some Charnwoods only and use heat that would otherwise be lost from the flue pipe above the stove. One pipe in, one out they offer the Domestic Hot water option on stoves that being 2022 compliant are not compatible with internal boilers. As these boilers bolt in using the unique flue flange holes in the stove they are not compatible with other stove brands. My thought is a Charnwood C5 BLU + log store + Flue pipe boiler would be close to 1500, I would need to confirm that when sitting at my desk though. With flue systems their is a wide range of products in the market, many are of poor quality, cowls that are mild steel not stainless steel, we wont fit anything we have not supplied. I would suggest you let whoever is installing it supply the flue parts as he is having to certify it as safe to use. Charnwood Flue Boiler - Charnwood Stoves WWW.CHARNWOOD.COM The Charnwood ash-carrier is a simple yet invaluable addition to your Charnwood stove. It offers a clean, safe and effective means of ash disposal.

You have a poorly insulted room with a volume of around 65 cu m. As such you need a stove with a nominal output of 5kw - 6kw, much biiger and you will soon regret it as the room will be uncomfortably hot. Modern stoves need to be driven hard for optimum flame patterns, clean glass and minimum emissions. You have not advised if you are living within a designated smoke control area. ARADA Ecoburn 5 widescreen has a nominal 5kw output and a max output of 9kw depending on what its loaded with, is approved for use within a SC area. Not as advanced as some but a good solid British built stove, lifetime casing warranty. I sell 50 plus a year and never have an issue. but a bi There are others within your price range, Charnwood C5 and Aire are technically more advanced but a bit more costly. I am assuming your budget is for the stove alone, if its for stove, flue parts and installation and sign off then I need to down spec the stove. A

That takes time, effort and finance but its gathering pace. You will have heard of the withdrawal from the Hetas approved scheme of some if not all of the SIA manufacturer members, that will free up finance to be used to push back the negative publicity currently surrounding wood burning stoves. Interesting that there is nothing much negative about burning wood in open fires, yet that produces almost around 15 times as much pollution as wood burnt in a 2022 compliant stove. Open fires are the main cause of smoke pollution in London, many areas within the M25 are designated smoke control areas, as such it is only legal to burn wood in a DEFRA approved stove, yet many people are opening up old open fire places and burning wood. That is illegal and carries stiff penalties but Govt cuts means that there are very few environmental health inspectors to carry out investigations. A

I read recently that the emissions for one Russian coal fired power station was more than the entire UK, and they have hundreds of them as do the Chinese. Thats where a large proportion of the world wide emissions problems start. Top 5 most polluting countries WWW.ACTIVESUSTAINABILITY.COM Discover which nations pump most carbon dioxide emissions into the atmosphere List of countries by greenhouse gas emissions - Wikipedia EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG

I know of it, starting from zero they are the group pushing back against the banning of wood burning that is being driven in the press by big business. I will be joining their retail section shortly. A

56 quid a ton assuming a 24 ton load.

Are you selling or buying ?.

I have a fair stock of softwood, some processed 4 or 5 years ago, cant hardly give it away. Burn it ourselves in the showroom stoves. Would be pleased to see an upturn in demand for soft. I do advise customers that it burns hotter than hard but will want re fueling about 10 mins before hard, thus cost per kw generated is about the same, A

All imported firewood is now subject to FC inspection, they are looking for the Emerald Ash borer and another similar borer that infects softwood. In the last two years I have only had a couple of containers that were not inspected. Logs themselves are kiln dried Birch and Oak, crates used to be KD Birch but the last container had a mix of timbers making up the crates. The FC are looking for softwood with bark that is not stamped Heat treated, thats why this year I bought kindling from the guy at Glossop Firewood. As an aside what now is the market rate in the midland ride side for decent Ash/Syc/Birch/Beech. A

Centeral Northants, M1 J18 about 5 miles, I now only have a processer that takes up to about 280mm dia but I do have a Posch 20 ton splitter so an odd over size sticks is not to much of an issue. I do have about a seasons stock of cord from the farm, but a reliable supplier would be nice to know for the future. I like to have a coupie of years of cord around. Many names have been given to me, many have promised delivery ( as it has to go about 100 yards across a field then May - Sept is the preferred delivery window but we do have a fair fleet of JDs up to about 160 hp if needed. A

So many trees that it would be impossible to plant that amount in the time scale promised, and where is the land coming from to put them on ?. We already have more trees than at anytime since the 1400s. My issue is being able to source suitable cord at sensible price levels, it all goes for chip. Since my supplier packed up 6 or 7 years ago I have ordered cord in 100 ton batches from 5 or 6 suppliers, all assured me they had ideal stock yet not a single stick has ever appeared, none. So rather than upgrading my processor etc to take 400mm plus stuff I imported instead but still sell some seasoned timber that comes from the family farm and farms next door, usually storm damaged timber. A

Several of us here import from Latvia and Lithuania, I was forced to as I am unable to source decent timber in the UK, must have ordered 500 tonnes over the last few years and none has ever turned up. I would strongly advise that you seek references for anyone you are looking at using as there are a lot of crooks sending wet wood, only part of a container etc and as its paid for in advance then you are stuffed. What I would say is that a 40 foot container is usually 24.5 tonnes, and you have 3 hours to unload it before fines start kicking in, so you need handling equipment and a concrete yard, crates are 8 foot high, on a telehandler they will topple off the forks on less than flat concrete. so ideally a telehandler and someone who is competent at using it. Prices at this time of year ( High season) are about 10 Euros a crate higher than if you buy it in May/june. If you need a name pm me. But with a mild winter and maybe 6 weeks left do you really want around 20 tonnes sitting around until October ?. A

Using a top quality flue system from Poujoulat then look at around 2k inc VAT for a 130mm ID system in shiny stainless steel, , its all we use, 12 years and zero problems. Hearth will be driven by the choice of stove, most stoves these days can sit on a glass hearth that could sit on a wooden floor. Sitting on concrete then dont use glass but anything non combustible can be used, price would vary from around 100 quid upwards. You will need to have those electrical points removed, or have the stove situated a fair way from them as heat from the stove will melt them. Exactly how far will depend on the stove, if you look at convector stoves such as the Arada I600 they have a closer min comb clearance than a radiating stove, the Morso S11-42 is a favorite of mine in these situations. The walls to the sides and rear are also either plasterboard ( combustible) or plaster onto block work, thus liable to heat damage. Thus the walls may need to be protected depending on how far from the stove they are, tiling is one way of doing this. Install and safety certification for a job of that type we would charge 650 inc VAT, plus tiling if needed, should be completed in one day or 1.5 days if tiling. Then you have the cost of a decent stove, the Charnwood Skye 5 fills all the requirements, very low emissions, ( 40% better than the 2022 requirements), convector, multifuel, 84 % efficient, 200mm sides and 90mm rear min comb clearance, it is the current state of the art stove, but it is 1800 quid or so inc VAT. I have a SKYE 7 on live display, so a bit bigger version, pretty well every customer who wants to get their hands on it and see how controllable it is buys one. https://www.charnwood.com/files/documents/specifications/skye5.pdf Horses for courses really. Depending on the latter and the hearth choice jobs of that type are usually in the 4k - 5k bracket. A

Steve, the farmer next door has about 8 tons of Pop, felled last spring, in the round, central Northants. Mainly 300mm or so diameter but a couple of larger sticks. There is a hard farm track about 30 yards from it but its to wet at present to get off that. PM me if interested and I will put you in touch, A

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Many stove manufacturers have moved to vermiculite baffle plates over the last few years, dont really know why but they dont warp and also dont ever seem to crack as they never come into contact with logs just thrown into a stove and wacking the side brick against the side of the stove. A

Its had a hell of a hammering from water, no cowl on the top of the chimney to keep same out I bet. Frankly its scrap, no installer would risk his livelihood and re install and certify as safe to use. Water gets bewteen the top and the sides and forces them apart, this generally breaks both top and either side and or front of the stove, my best advice is scrap it, you might get a few bob for it on ebay for spares or repair. Also dont keep that building timber off cuts so close to the stove, a good stove working well may well set them on fire at that distance. Most good radiating stoves combustible clearance from the sides is 500mm plus. A

The one with the integral log store is over 2100, but you do get what you pay for. A

Charnwood Skye 7, got one live in one of the showrooms, almost everyone who has had a hands on go with the air control has bought one or the same in 5kw. Exquisitely controllable and exceeds the 2022 Eco Design requirements by at least 35%. A

Hit, sell lots of them. A

Correct, I wondered what in earth you were all talking about. Apologies for the error. A