Rob D

I've not heard about this and I'm supposed to be a retailer! I ordered another x4 saws the other day and they came out to me fine... Will look into it...

Good work Patrick - a few cube in that lot!

They do match the colour of the saw nicely

Nope tis x2 bars and x1 chain. I got these GB bars a while ago for the Stihl MS150 but they have a misprint on the drive link count ie. says 56 on bar but takes 58 (or 59 for the tiny Echo). Have a Google of GB bars - they are another independant bar manufactrurer and make all the long bars I sell with the mills (as well as harvester bars). They do take the 1/4 .043 mini chain and feel a bit tougher than the Stihl bar.

Oh - and 59 drive links is the d/l count.

So you have a spare bar! The offer is to shift bars and not chains - if you want another chain then you buy one!

Tiny Echo thread followers - am doing a special offer on x2 10" GB bars which run the 1/4 .043 chain and x1 chain all for £45-00+vat (free delivery). Can buy here if it tickles your fancy! Or get the saw as well with the x2 bars and x1 chain all for £300-00+vat. OFFERS | Product Categories | Sugihara Guide Bars

Sorry Steve - for some reason only just seen this! Hopefully this other bar will also last well. Yep - they have worked out really well the Sugi bars and gone from strength to strength! Trouble is the lead time on orders (inc shipping) is almost 6 months now which makes keeping stock interesting to say the least.

Haha! Yep - it may be on the odd one it happens or perhaps it is only tricky when spanking new in that case...

Also if you have a moment have a look at how the sprockets linking is coming on... you now select your bar on Sugihara and it gives the chain options... Now we have started linking the sprockets - what do people think? Easy to find what you want? Let me know your thoughts/improvements... The home page tells you how the site works... Sugihara Guide Bars Sprockets are only linked to Group 1 and 2 Stihl at the moment... But it should be easier to buy what you need as everything will be on the same page.... If you want a carving bar the correct chains are there and also a choice of drive sprocket specifically for that bar. Feel free to be constructive!!

We are no longer doing arbtalk goodies! Sorry about that - those were the good old days We are just doing straight offers - have a look at the latest one on carving bars - it's a good un!

OFFERS | Product Categories | Sugihara Guide Bars We are ending arbtalk offers now where people have to put codes in etc and switching to doing special offers within arbtalk. Some of these will be like this one with it's own thread - and some will be peppered within existing threads. The idea is that those who are participating in the thread will then have easier access to the offer..... Some offers will only be publicised on arbtalk. So what's this one then? Well last batch of Sugi carving bars it seems the noses are of different sizes. On the whole a dime tip carving bar will be R9 (the radius of the nose is 9mm) and quarter tip bars will be R13 (radius of the nose is 13mm). But the last batch has bars with noses that measure inbetween these. All of these are fine to run 1/4" pitch chain - but really we want the dime tips to be 9mm and quarter 13mm. [ame] [/ame] So the R stands for what radius the nose of the bar is. So we have arranged with Sugihara to do a deal on the ones that don't fit these measurements - buy 1 get 1 free! Unlikely to ever be repeated so dive in and gorge on the carving bars found here. Only these ones are on this offer! They are universal mounts and will run on any and all chainsaws 40cc or less fitted with a 1/4" drive sprocket. OFFERS | Product Categories | Sugihara Guide Bars Not got a saw to run a carving set up? Why not buy one of the new CS281-WES? Hot price of £180-00 for saw only with 1/4" drive sprocket - then buy your carving bars to go on there. See how to care for your bar and adapt your chain - you can increase the life of your bar massively by correct use and maintenance... you need to look after your bar to get full use out of it. Simon O'Rourke made this vid recently [ame] [/ame]

Yep I agree the old man needs to be buried now we have the next theme in the pipeline but my brother (who is the design wallah) will not do it until I have fully populated the new Sugi site with all the sprockets!

Thanks for your order Dag - it will be dispatched on Monday

Both websites are the same company run from the same place. Why (you would quite reasonably) ask? main reason is chainsawbars.co.uk lists the standard bars for chainsaws ie. if the chainsaw comes with .325 drive sprocket the results will be in .325 sugiharabarsuk.co.uk lists only sugi bars but also gives all types of bar in all types of fittings/options chainsawbars.co.uk lists all things we sell - sugihara is just for sugihara (and ok Echo as well...) chainsawbars.co.uk is pretty slick on the front end - but a right pain to fiddle with round the back! sugiharabarsuk will be a blueprint/trial for the new chainsawbars.co.uk as a distributer you are sometimes asked to have a dedicated website to sell through

I have found the Echo one doesn't! Same for the Echo CS281-WES - you have to play with it for a bit before it goes on. But as said - minor niggle really .....

Also one niggle I have with the saw is I really dislike the chain break band built into the side plate cover - you can spend a while 'fiddling' until it fits over the sprocket drum!

It seems to ooze resin each year no matter how dry! I milled a fair bit of it and couldn't do much with the timber.

Whether it is the right thing to do or the wrong thing - chasing up a quote is never going to do any harm! And it could bring in a job that you may not have otherwise got. Probably best not to expect a good % return rate when doing it but I'd say it's good professional business practice. Also you can get some feedback from people on why they perhaps choose to go elsewhere (it may not always be the price).

It is confusing! Sugihara is one company that makes guidebars in Japan (although their actual factory name is Diatop) and Sugihara is the brand name for their bars. Tsumura is another totally seperate company in Japan that also makes guide bars (their company is called Suehiro Seiko). Both companies have a reputation for making an excellent product. I think that some of the Echo 2510s now do come with 1/4" drive sprocket as standard running a Tsumura small tipped carving bar. Tsumura do not make a sprocket nose bar to run 1/4 .043 chain (nor do they have to tooling to do so at the moment). If newer versions are running a 1/4 .043 sprocket nose bar these will be Sugihara bars - who do make a 1/4 .043 sprocket nose bar but it will not run the Stihl 1/4 .043 chain (it will run Sugihara's own version of the 1/4 .043 chain). Tsumura seem to make the laminated bars on the smaller Echo saws while Sugihara make the larger pro solid bars on the larger Echos.

Ref removing teeth - to do it properly would take some time as you would be taking away a tooth then adding a blank drive link (one break then joining twice each time). If you simply grind the tooth off the chain can be weakened and snap at that point.

James what about a reel of 27RX which I think is what you're after. Baileys have it and says in stock Oregon 100' Ripping Chain Reel (27Rx-1484 Drive Links) 27Rx100u | Oregon 27RX Ripping Chain (Super Skip) | Ripping/Milling Chainsaw Chain (.404" x .063") | www.www.baileysonline.com.com There are 1480 drive links in a 100ft reel of .404 chain. You get the joiners and tie straps in with the chain when you buy 100ft. It's £520-00 + shipping and import costs.

I can furnish you with this! PM me all your details address etc and phone number

So no takers on this so far? I'll test a loop but would be better if a few other people could do the same... You will be refunded as soon as you post your findings back on this thread!