Making the news today....

[Mark J]

9 hours ago, felixthelogchopper said:

I've always thought of you as an intelligent man. Pull the other one.

He's similar to Matelot.  He might as well be Matelot: Civil Engineering, Navy background, Middle East exposure, racist.

[Vespasian]

6 hours ago, Mull said:

 

Sort of got out the “habit” of posting when website was updated Kev, only ever used phone app, it took a little longer to be updated. Always kept looking in now and then though.

Obviously I was being silly with the “white supremacy” comment, tv then was “of its time” as you say, world is much smaller place now I guess, we have less excuses to be ignorant. I appreciate more than ever that I live in a wee safe bubble out here in the islands!!
Wouldn’t change it for anything

 

Hows that wee lamb of yours Mull?..  and the mother?,hope your treatin em right

[matelot]

Lol, this made me chuckle a bit.

 

 

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

45 minutes ago, matelot said:

Lol, this made me chuckle a bit.

 

 

Ladies and gentlemen....

 

Our Shadow Home Secretary - Thick as mince!

[spudulike]

On ‎17‎/‎12‎/‎2017 at 16:39, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

I can't remember what the edit was, but, if it was to add incompetent and sanctimonious, I'd stand by it!  

 

Tomato / Tomarto....  OK, fair one, excuse me if I don't shed a tear for the most racially biased politician in living memory though.

 

 

 

 

Well that is about as embarrassing as it can get and the excuse means that if we cut a tree down each day of the week, by the last one, we haven't a clue how we got there, what to cut it down with, what kit we may need and what to do with it if we actually manage to cut it down safely!!!

Farcical joke is being polite! 

 

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

Tricky:  Can I really believe there is 'institutional racism' within the Public sector?  

 

I'm not sure I can.  Actually, I'm sure I don't.  

 

Bristol City council for example, a Labour Mayor and Labour controlled council in a UK city with a long and strong cultural history and diverse population.  Seriously?  

 

The Public sector is super paranoid and ultra averse to even the slightest hint of racism - it would send the panic merchants into over-drive.

 

The INDIVIDUAL (rest his soul) was murdered by a *(1) thug, but were the actions of the police and council actually institutionally racist or did they simply get it wrong and the race of the perp and victim are irrelevant (other than the perp's apparent motivation.)  

 

Is it a pure coincidence that the victim was of foreign origin and that ANY victim that had made persistent, repeat, apparently unsubstantiated demands upon the civil authorities might be subject to the procedures of the Register of vexatious complainants?  Or are we to believe this victim was abandoned BECAUSE he was Iranian?   

 

Interesting how it's reported differently:

 

The Guardian - "Bristol refugee murder review accuses police of institutional racism"

Mail Online - "Police force and a council deemed 'institutionally racist'"

 

Both parties have acknowledged and accepted the finding of the report.  

 

Bristol City council statement - "We accept all of the findings of the Safer Bristol-commissioned independent review, including “evidence of both discriminatory behaviour and institutional racism on the part of Bristol City Council”.

 

Avon & Somerset Constabulary statement - We recognise and fully accept the findings of the Safer Bristol Partnership report into the murder of Bijan Ebrahimi. 

 

Apart from the apparent undeniable evidence that the perp had diminished 'inhibitors'  due to alcohol *(2) how would this be viewed if the victim had been of UK origin?  

 

Would it just be incompetence (or a mistake, or under resourcing) rather than institutional racism?  Are the institutions too afraid to deny the institutional racism claim? 

 

Para's 9.10 -9.11 read to me like the victim was a PITA and was treated as such because he was a PITA not because he was foreign.  

 

(Postscript - surprised to learn that the author of the report is an ex-copper)

 

https://www.bristol.gov.uk/documents/20182/35136/Multi-agency+learning+review+following+the+murder+of+Bijan+Ebrahimi/c2b17b97-c9ec-a5f4-70e4-fc82d1ccb119

 

 

Edited December 19, 2017 by kevinjohnsonmbe
After having read the report more fully, (1) & (2) to delete and amend references to the perp from being racist to being influenced by alcohol consumption and to add the link which didn't work previously

[Mull]

Hows that wee lamb of yours Mull?..  and the mother?,hope your treatin em right:thumbup1:

Both doing well, mother expecting again[emoji849], these damn single mothers!

[felixthelogchopper]

10 hours ago, Mull said:

 

Both doing well, mother expecting again, these damn single mothers!

 

Well, if you will keep providing a roof over their heads and food without making them go out to work........

[tree-fancier123]

On 17/12/2017 at 16:53, the village idiot said:

Closing the borders will not stop terrorism. It may shift some of the deaths to another country, but then you have to start asking yourself soul searching questions like ' Why exactly does it matter so much more to me when British people are killed as opposed to equally innocent people living in another country'?

 

This is a difficult and controversial question, but one that is interesting to ponder.

For me, this is easy to answer - it matters so much more when British people are killed because of genetics and probability - some here will have lost daughters and nieces at the Manchester concert for example, probably hardly any UK citizens lose close relatives when a bomb goes off in Moscow or Libya.

The slims are not the best thing to arrive. I'm glad to have been born in a secular age, but you can't educate pork

[Mark J]

Copied from elsewhere but I agree with the sentiment,  it would be good if they had a lottery everytime the queen wanted something new though.  That way, people could choose whether they supported the royal family or not and all taxes raised would go back to the government:

 

"You couldn't make it up. Fifty elected Tory representatives want you to buy scratch cards to buy a yacht for a woman (officially) worth about half a billion quid.

 

Tory logic...

Not in dire need and worthy of extra funding:

NHS.
Social care.
Schools.
Emergency services.
Prison services.
Grenfell survivors.
128,000 homeless children.
The million plus families driven to foodbanks.
The disabled.
The vulnerable.
Families having to choose between heating and eating.
The 4,134 people who are estimated to be sleeping rough on any one night.

 

In dire need and worthy of extra funding:

The Queen"

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/27/britannia-win-lottery-fifty-tory-mps-back-new-lotto-game-let/amp/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_tw&__twitter_impression=true

Edited December 28, 2017 by Mark J